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[November 1985] The Only True Church
Lds.org (Ensign magazine) ^ | November 1985 | Boyd Packer

Posted on 03/23/2013 4:02:56 PM PDT by Colofornian

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Surely we must appear at times to be very amateurish when compared to the professional clergy of other churches.

One doctrine presents a particular challenge. It is our firm conviction that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is...“the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth.” (D&C 1:30)

This doctrine often generates resistance and repels the casual investigator.

Some have said, “We want nothing to do with anyone who makes so presumptuous a claim as that.”

The early Latter-day Saints were...the butt of many clever stories. We, of course, are not free from that today.

Should we not then make one accommodation and set this doctrine aside?

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It is little wonder that our missionaries are sometimes thought to be overbearing...

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Inevitably...the “true church” doctrine emerges very early in any serious discussion of the gospel, for there is no better place to start such a discussion than with the First Vision...

Joseph Smith sought answer to the question “which of all the sects was right…and which…should [he] join?” (JS—H 1:18.)...

...In response to his humble prayer, the Father and the Son appeared to him. When he gained possession of himself so as to be able to speak, he asked “which of all the sects was right, that [he] might know which to join.” (JS—H 1:18.)

He recorded this:

“I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt...'

“He again forbade me to join with any of them.” (JS—H 1:19–20.)

That is very blunt language...

If ever he was tempted to disregard those words, they were repeated and sustained in subsequent revelations...

(Excerpt) Read more at lds.org ...


TOPICS: Ecumenism; Other Christian; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: antichristian; apostasy; inman; lds; mormonism; onlytruechurch
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To: Colofornian

Not this Horse Shiite again.

It was that arrogant statement of superiority and exclusiveness that gotmme to investigate LDS, whereupon I learned we are not of the same faith in any way, shape, form or fashion.

Oh! A friend extolled to me, today, the wonders of a certain Scott Wolton.

They went on and on about his pedigree and that stoopit Bat Stone.

Apparently he is now peddling his wares on the history channel.

I didn’t have the heart to illuminate them on his fraud and ruin their day.

I did leave a hint so they could discover it for themselves.


21 posted on 03/23/2013 5:18:22 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Stepford wife syndrome. Complete with addiction to happy pills as they are tormented by never really feeling “worthy and well qualified” as they work mightily to prove as much for their temple recommend.


22 posted on 03/23/2013 5:20:45 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Colofornian

Sounds like one of those monotheistic belief systems. The upstart and intolerant newcomers. Polytheists and pantheists are not impressed.


23 posted on 03/23/2013 5:54:22 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Half black,half white......A SKUNK?........................ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS.(It"s the Law))
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I know my denomination isn’t perfect nor do we claim it, it is much like the Christians who fill it - strivers of perfection, to be like Jesus Who was and is Perfection.

Do the LDS claim perfection? If so, they must be the only church that does so. That is arrogant, prideful, sinful and wrong.

From personal observation, LDS is among the least “correct”, ranking right up there with the muzzies. The LDS may not be trying to kill us but to listen to their clap trap is to jeopardize one’s soul, all the Muzzies can do is kill my old worn out anyway body.


24 posted on 03/23/2013 6:01:39 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: truth_seeker

“One student refused, a devout Mormon.”


A step up from the football playing Mormon, who invented a dead girlfriend; and Mitt Romney, who invented an entire persona; and Joseph Smith, who was a pathological liar with 30 wives, 12 of whom still married to other men, and some as young as 14 years old.

One hopes he’ll convert to Christianity in the future, so his sins are washed clean, so he won’t be numbered with those evildoers.


25 posted on 03/23/2013 6:08:52 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“Christ is their religion’s bitter enemy.”

You mean like this:

LDS Children’s Song Book “I’m Trying to be like Jesus” =

I’m trying to be like Jesus;
I’m following in his ways.
I’m trying to love as he did,
In all that I do and say.
At times I’m tempted to make a wrong choice,
But I try to listen as the still small voice whispers,
“Love one another as Jesus loves you.
Try to show kindness in all that you do.
Be gentle and loving in deed and in thought,
For these are the things Jesus taught.”

I’m trying to love my neighbor;
I’m learning to serve my friends.
I watch for the day of gladness when Jesus will come again.
I try to remember the lessons he taught.
Then the Holy Spirit enters into my thoughts, saying:
“Love one another as Jesus loves you.
Try to show kindness in all that you do.
Be gentle and loving in deed and in thought,
For these are the things Jesus taught.”

Good advice: “Try to show kindness in all that you do.”


26 posted on 03/23/2013 6:13:39 PM PDT by District13 (Obama scares me)
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To: District13

“You mean like this:”


I mean like this:

1. Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!
Jesus anointed that Prophet and Seer.
Blessed to open the last dispensation,
Kings shall extol him, and nations revere.
(Chorus]
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

2. Praise to his mem’ry, he died as a martyr;
Honored and blest be his ever great name!
Long shall his blood, which was shed by assassins,
Plead unto heav’n while the earth lauds his fame.
3. Great is his glory and endless his priesthood.
Ever and ever the keys he will hold.
Faithful and true, he will enter his kingdom,
Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.

4. Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven;
Earth must atone for the blood of that man.
Wake up the world for the conflict of justice.
Millions shall know “Brother Joseph” again.
Text: William W. Phelps, 1792-1872

http://www.lds.org/music/library/hymns/praise-to-the-man?lang=eng

And a thousand other injuries and insults your religion rains down upon Christ, and then, hypocritically, claim that your religion is about Christ.

What do you have to do with Christ, when your religion is henotheistic (polytheistic with a focus on a central deity), and the Bible preaches only monotheism?

What do you know of Christ, when you think that by your works you will be saved, when we know it is by the grace of God, unmoved by mortal hands?

It would be nice if you would answer these questions.

Mormonism is not Christianity, and no Christian shall be fooled to believe otherwise.


27 posted on 03/23/2013 6:27:28 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: District13

District,
In addition to the good question you were just asked...

please answer this:

If God is omnipotent, how can there be more than one god?


28 posted on 03/23/2013 6:30:23 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
A step up from the football playing Mormon, who invented a dead girlfriend; and Mitt Romney, who invented an entire persona

disrespectful and pathetic....at best

29 posted on 03/23/2013 6:33:10 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: terycarl

“disrespectful and pathetic....at best”


Honest and mournful... it is.


30 posted on 03/23/2013 6:40:11 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
disrespectful and pathetic....at best” -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Honest and mournful... it is.

okay; opinionated, disrespectful, pathetic and asinine...you win!

31 posted on 03/23/2013 6:45:45 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: terycarl

“okay; opinionated, disrespectful, pathetic and asinine...you win!”


You described your meaningless post well. You lost!


32 posted on 03/23/2013 6:48:50 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: teppe

Re: your last statement ... prove it...tis itself inuendo & a smear minus any proof!


34 posted on 03/23/2013 7:26:36 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: teppe

“My posts are all accusations, smears, inuendo, distortions and outright fabrications.”


Fixed your post for you, Teppe. Except it still isn’t accurate. You don’t even bother to distort or fabricate anything. You just accuse and smear, technically.

“The book is very objective in shining a light on all of the data in existence, and demonstrates that your smears are ill founded.”


www.biblegateway.com This book is very objective in shining a light on all of the data in existence, and demonstrates that your Mormon religion is ill founded.

“.... your obviously much to interested in smears, inuendo, distortion and outright fabrications.”


Do you have a parrot you are trying to teach? Well, I guess only if you say it out loud too.


35 posted on 03/23/2013 7:28:38 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
“okay; opinionated, disrespectful, pathetic and asinine...you win!” -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You described your meaningless post well. You lost!

describe which of my adjectives describing your disgusting post was wrong, and why????

can't do it can you???

36 posted on 03/23/2013 7:41:11 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Poly(theism) wanna cracker?


37 posted on 03/23/2013 7:43:12 PM PDT by Syncro ("So?" -Andrew Breitbart [1969-2012] RIP King of The New Media)
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To: terycarl

“can’t do it can you???”


I can do it easily. But why would I bother? You think an irrelevant post about a good-deed of a Mormon, somehow vindicates a religion that denies Christ, and yet, despite your own logic, will not hold to the crimes of two other Mormons to damn it. And then you spam away, telling me I am disrespectful, and my post disgusting, and wrong, when your thoughts are all jumbled up.


38 posted on 03/23/2013 7:44:37 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: terycarl
disrespectful and pathetic....at best

The inventing a dead girlfriend, for sure!

Romney inventing an entire [faux conservative] persona,...ehh so what? He's completely out of the loop politically now.

39 posted on 03/23/2013 7:48:07 PM PDT by Syncro ("So?" -Andrew Breitbart [1969-2012] RIP King of The New Media)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; terycarl
LOL, yep SOP.

You don't often find Catholics turning to the LDS belief system here at FR. Lots of times in the real world though, as the Mormons are hell bent to proselytize Catholics around the world.

40 posted on 03/23/2013 7:50:36 PM PDT by Syncro ("So?" -Andrew Breitbart [1969-2012] RIP King of The New Media)
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