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Something to consider when perusing the plethora of self-help groups advertised your parish bulletin this Easter Sunday...
1 posted on 03/28/2013 5:58:16 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

I get this.


2 posted on 03/28/2013 6:01:52 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: markomalley; smvoice; Alex Murphy; RnMomof7

The RCC is already semi-pelagian, so what harm would there be to take it all the way?


3 posted on 03/28/2013 6:02:58 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: markomalley

Yes. Great and new points for this age.


5 posted on 03/28/2013 6:17:18 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: markomalley

I understand the pope partially but not the example given. No one should ever doubt that everything one does should be in reference to the Lord’s will for your life and his commandments. Please let’s discuss how this has anything to do with a self improvement class of some kind. I just don’t get this particular point


7 posted on 03/28/2013 6:36:52 AM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: markomalley

Sounds like self help advice from the pope.


9 posted on 03/28/2013 6:42:27 AM PDT by polkajello
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To: markomalley

Ok never mind he makes perfect sense now that I read the article at the source. Basically saying get out of yourself, get out of the monastery or your rectory and go among the suffering, mainly speaking to the priests and to all. Nothing derogatory specifically in reference to learning. Just a back to basics of faith you don’t need anything fancy, love your neighbor live the Gospel all the instruction and methods are plain to see


10 posted on 03/28/2013 6:47:29 AM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: markomalley

I used to work with a guy who was a lapsed Catholic, that read a tried to apply all the positive thinking books he could get his hands on. He wanted to make more money for him and his wife. No interest in the rest of his family, the community, the poor or lonely or sick. And no thought of asking God for help.

Wonder if Francis knows anybody like my co-worker.


17 posted on 03/28/2013 7:18:14 AM PDT by married21
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To: markomalley

The bulletins in this area seem to have ads only for plumbers and carpet layers but good advice for those who do.

I have seen Christians harmed by involvement in these self-help groups, many of which are cults headed by a guru of some kind (not necessarily Indian).

These groups commonly offer a feel-good philosophy which is meant to supplant one’s Christian orientation.


26 posted on 03/28/2013 9:09:51 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: markomalley

:) This Pope is all that I had hoped and prayed for, and more. I’m so thankful that Pope Benedict is still with us, so that he can offer wise counsel to Pope Francis. With all that is happening in the world today, this is one very bright light.


41 posted on 03/28/2013 1:48:44 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: markomalley

A Jebbie Hitting pelagianism! Somewhere Pascal is smiling.


49 posted on 03/28/2013 7:12:39 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: markomalley

Both Catholics and Protestants agree that our fellowship with God is in the one same Holy Spirit.

Each believer has been anointed with spiritual gifts, but not all believers have the same spiritual gifts.

All believers are priests before God the Father through faith in Christ and anointed by God the Holy Spirit.

It is true that if a believer only seeks sanctification through “self-help” courses, while in fellowship with God through faith in Christ, being sanctified by God the Holy Spirit in the human spirit of the believer, that believer will continue to grow in faith as a work of God. Learning independent of the work of God the Holy Spirit in us is simply academics and may lead to Pelagianism.

Still there is nothing wrong in a believer continually learning through faith in Christ as we are commanded to never cease praying.

It also is true that if one only learns, but never works his spiritual gifts through faith in Christ, then without works he is dead or simply separated from fully exercising what God has provided.

I am cautious in reading the article how some worldly priests might confuse the Pope’s direction as promoting a worldly religion, mistaking ritualism and mysticism with the actual spiritual walk of a believer using his spiritual gifts. It also tends to promote the false notion that other believers are not priests before God in this Church Age and must seek other men other than themselves through faith in Christ to walk in fellowship with Him and to fulfill His Plan for each of us. In this sense, should a priest confuse his role as a worldly power broker, instead of exercising the spiritual gift given him by God, not by any man, then he will slip out of fellowship, scarring his soul, at living a religious ritual in arrogance, instead of through faith in Christ.


87 posted on 03/30/2013 3:29:02 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: markomalley

Francis I is making waves.

I imagine Dr Phil will come out against him any day now. :>)

I love it: Grace instead of “emotional intelligence”

Preach it, Brother Francis!


170 posted on 04/01/2013 6:46:38 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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