To: keats5; Salvation
John 13, in my opinion, is not authority for the exclusion of women. From the King James Version and the Latin Vulgate:
13:4 He riseth from supper and layeth aside his garments and, having taken a towel, girded himself.
surgit a cena et ponit vestimenta sua et cum accepisset linteum praecinxit se
13: 5 After that, he putteth water into a basin and began to wash the feet of the disciples and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded.
deinde mittit aquam in pelvem et coepit lavare pedes discipulorum et extergere linteo quo erat praecinctus
13: 6 He cometh therefore to Simon Peter. And Peter saith to him: Lord, dost thou wash my feet?
venit ergo ad Simonem Petrum et dicit ei Petrus Domine tu mihi lavas pedes
13: 7 Jesus answered and said to him: What I do, thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter.
respondit Iesus et dicit ei quod ego facio tu nescis modo scies autem postea
13: 8 Peter saith to him: Thou shalt never wash my feet, Jesus answered him: If I wash thee not, thou shalt have no part with me.
dicit ei Petrus non lavabis mihi pedes in aeternum respondit Iesus ei si non lavero te non habes partem mecum
13: 9 Simon Peter saith to him: Lord, not only my feet, but also my hands and my head.
dicit ei Simon Petrus Domine non tantum pedes meos sed et manus et caput
13: 10 Jesus saith to him: He that is washed needeth not but to wash his feet, but is clean wholly. And you are clean, but not all.
dicit ei Iesus qui lotus est non indiget ut lavet sed est mundus totus et vos mundi estis sed non omnes
13: 11 For he knew who he was that would betray him; therefore he said: You are not all clean.
sciebat enim quisnam esset qui traderet eum propterea dixit non estis mundi omnes
13: 12 Then after he had washed their feet and taken his garments, being set down again, he said to them: Know you what I have done to you?
postquam ergo lavit pedes eorum et accepit vestimenta sua cum recubuisset iterum dixit eis scitis quid fecerim vobis
13: 13 You call me Master and Lord. And you say well: for so I am.
vos vocatis me magister et Domine et bene dicitis sum etenim
13: 14 If then I being your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; you also ought to wash one another's feet.
si ergo ego lavi vestros pedes Dominus et magister et vos debetis alter alterius lavare pedes
13: 15 For I have given you an example, that as I have done to you, so you do also.
exemplum enim dedi vobis ut quemadmodum ego feci vobis ita et vos faciatis
Where are the survivors of the massacre at Benghazi? The silence of the Obama Regime on this question is deafening!
Fiat Justitia, Ruat Coelum!
Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!
Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)
posted on 03/30/2013 12:28:31 PM PDT
(HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
I didn’t post that as any type of authority for the exclusion of women. I was just posting what Jesus did and said about washing feet in general.
posted on 03/30/2013 1:18:16 PM PDT
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