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Pope Francis Links Turin Shroud To Jesus Christ As Relic Is Shown On Television For Easter
Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | March 30, 2013 | Nick Squires

Posted on 03/30/2013 11:28:23 AM PDT by Steelfish

Pope Francis Links Turin Shroud To Jesus Christ As Relic Is Shown On Television For Easter

Francis has drawn an explicit link between Christ and the ghostly image imprinted on the Turin Shroud but stopped short of declaring the holy icon the true burial cloth of Jesus.

Nick Squires 30 Mar Francis made his first remarks on the mysterious relic since being elected Pope in a special video message as the shroud was shown live on television for only the second time in its history.

His remarks came on Holy Saturday, which falls between the commemoration of Christ’s crucifixion on Good Friday and his resurrection on Easter Sunday.

Francis referred to the 14ft-long strip of sepia cloth, which is imprinted with the face and body of a bearded man, as “the Holy Shroud” and asked: “How is it that the faithful, like you, pause before this icon of a man scourged and crucified? It is because the Man of the Shroud invites us to contemplate Jesus of Nazareth.

“This face has eyes that are closed, it is the face of one who is dead, and yet mysteriously he is watching us, and in silence he speaks to us.”

However his observations did not go beyond the non-committal approach taken by the Catholic Church on the question of the shroud’s authenticity. Observers noted that his use of the word “icon” fell short of the claim by some that the shroud is a “relic” of the crucifixion.

He likened the look of suffering on the face of the man to the pain and horrors endured by the victims of modern war and conflict.

“This disfigured face resembles all those faces of men and women marred by a life which does not respect their dignity, by war and violence which afflict the weakest.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Science; Worship
KEYWORDS: popefrancis; shroud

1 posted on 03/30/2013 11:28:23 AM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
This guy is starting to give me goosebumps!
2 posted on 03/30/2013 11:33:13 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Steelfish

heard an interview...This is only displayed about four times a century.


3 posted on 03/30/2013 11:34:07 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: SubMareener

What do you mean? In a good way? I hope.


4 posted on 03/30/2013 11:35:18 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Steelfish

Well, the Shroud is either a fake; real and the image of Christ; or real and the image of someone else. The scientific evidence to date has all but ruled out fakery. The chance of it being someone other than Christ is extremely small. And if it is someone else, then yikes!


5 posted on 03/30/2013 11:41:52 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: Salvation

Yes! The Holy Spirit is clearly with him!


6 posted on 03/30/2013 11:47:42 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Salvation

““How is it that the faithful, like you, pause before this icon of a man scourged and crucified? It is because the Man of the Shroud invites us to contemplate Jesus of Nazareth.”
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When libtards started getting their panties in a twist about this dude right from the get-go, I knew he’s gonna be an awesome Pope.


7 posted on 03/30/2013 11:48:15 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Steelfish

he summarizes exactly how i see the shroud. Eyes closed but yet looking at me.


8 posted on 03/30/2013 11:56:40 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: HerrBlucher
If it was fake it would've been proven by now, beyond doubt. I have no doubts it is real and it is Jesus. The Crowns of Thorns mocking him as King of the Jews is uniquely Jesus.

I am convinced this Shroud is Jesus' way of reminding us of his relevance and power. The fact that it's endured the test of time is proof enough for me.

9 posted on 03/30/2013 11:57:15 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: SubMareener; Salvation

Extract from the Article:

Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, when he was still cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, said that it was “a truly mysterious image, which no human artistry was capable of producing”.

When he visited the Turin as Pope in May 2010 to see the shroud, he came close to endorsing its authenticity.

“This is a burial cloth that wrapped the remains of a crucified man in full correspondence with what the Gospels tell us of Jesus,” he said.

The shroud was “an icon written in blood; the blood of a man who was whipped, crowned with thorns, crucified and injured on his right side,” Benedict said.


10 posted on 03/30/2013 12:07:28 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
Pope Francis ... stopped short of declaring the holy icon the true burial cloth of Jesus.
Ah, with all due respect, he had no choice.
No one will ever be able to declare the image is Jesus Christ, not even the pope.
11 posted on 03/30/2013 12:34:31 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Steelfish

Bump for later.


12 posted on 03/30/2013 1:02:46 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: oh8eleven
No one will ever be able to declare the image is Jesus Christ, not even the pope.

Beyond any possibility, sure, beyond a reasonable doubt.....we are already there.

13 posted on 03/30/2013 1:18:49 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: oh8eleven

Why CAN’T the Pope declare the image on the shroud to be that of Jesus? Why can’t the head of the church legitimize the proof of it’s Founder? Muslims have no problem declaring a rock as the most sacred thing in their ‘religion’. What’s to stop the Pope from claiming ours and-by declaring it- end all speculation for believers if no one else?


14 posted on 03/30/2013 1:30:02 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: ClearBlueSky

“Why CAN’T the Pope declare the image on the shroud to be that of Jesus?”

Because the TRUTH is that nobody knows. Church tradition holds that it is the shroud, but all we can really say is maybe. That’s what the pope says. The Catholic church doesn’t run around certifying everything as a miracle. What happens if they discover the shroud is a vey early forgery tomorrow?

And dude, comparing Catholics to Muslims is pretty unfair.


15 posted on 03/30/2013 2:21:58 PM PDT by Owl558 (Think twice before speaking once)
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To: HerrBlucher
beyond a reasonable doubt.....we are already there.
Like the "consensus" who believe in globull warming?
You are certainly free to believe anything you want, but that doesn't make it real.
16 posted on 03/30/2013 4:34:39 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: ClearBlueSky
Why can’t the head of the church legitimize the proof of it’s Founder?
You can't be serious.
17 posted on 03/30/2013 4:36:53 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

Sounds like you would never be able to make a decision as a juror or a judge, as to the guilt or innocence of the accused. No amount of evidence would be good enough for you. Suit yourself.

The Shroud is either a fake; real and the image of Christ; or real and the image of someone else. The scientific evidence shows, beyond a reasonable doubt, that it is not a fake. It is also extremely unlikely that it is the image of someone else.

If you think there is evidence it is a fake, then lay it out. I am really curious as to what that evidence is.


18 posted on 03/30/2013 5:03:56 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: oh8eleven

You are the second person to post to me that believing in the authenticity of the Shroud is the same as believing in global warming. It is actually quite the opposite. Global warmers ignore and or cherrypick evidence to support their claim and that is exactly what the Shroud skeptics have been doing on so many of these threads.

I have read several shroud threads and posted to many, and I have not yet seen any well reasoned argument against the authenticity of the shroud, in full consideration of the evidence available. Maybe you will be the first?


19 posted on 03/30/2013 5:15:56 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: HerrBlucher
The scientific evidence shows, beyond a reasonable doubt, that it is not a fake.
Not a fake old piece of cloth? Yes. Period.
20 posted on 03/31/2013 5:26:39 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: HerrBlucher
I have not yet seen any well reasoned argument against the authenticity of the shroud. Maybe you will be the first?
So, you proclaim it's the burial cloth of Jesus by a preponderance of the evidence, then you want me to disprove it? Gheeeeeeze.
Not only is that nonsense, but your attitude is cannon fodder for the anti-religion, loonie left
21 posted on 03/31/2013 5:38:37 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
So, you proclaim it's the burial cloth of Jesus by a preponderance of the evidence, then you want me to disprove it? Gheeeeeeze. Not only is that nonsense, but your attitude is cannon fodder for the anti-religion, loonie left

Not nonsense at all. You have indicated that you are a skeptic as to the authenticity of the Shroud by mocking my assertion that the evidence shows, beyond a reasonable doubt, it is authentic. You must have reasons to be skeptical. Tell me your reasons. If your reason is you believe there is not enough evidence then at least offer what more evidence is needed. And as I mentioned above, within a standard of reasonable doubt as is used in Court, not beyond any possibility.

As far as your allegation that my attitude provides cannon fodder for the looney left, well that allegation itself is looney. How does pointing to abundant evidence that the Shroud is authentic provide cannon fodder for the looney left? What is truly looney, yet in complete accordance with leftist debate tactics when they are losing the debate, is to simply ignore the evidence. That seems to be what you are doing because you have not even discussed the evidence at all. You have not given even one good reason to be skeptical that the Shroud is authentic.

22 posted on 03/31/2013 6:07:15 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: HerrBlucher
“Do not argue with an idiot ... they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain
Have a nice day.
23 posted on 03/31/2013 6:16:13 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
“Do not argue with an idiot ... they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain

My level is to actually point to evidence to support my case, and your level is to just ignore the evidence and use that to support your case. That is not a rational way of thinking.

24 posted on 03/31/2013 6:45:39 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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