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To: markomalley

His comment reported yesterday regarding Jesus’ availability “outside the church” gave me the creeps. If I had not known it was him nor what church he leads, I would have guessed that it was a statement made by the leader of a “Christian” cult.


3 posted on 04/24/2013 4:11:15 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf
His comment reported yesterday regarding Jesus’ availability “outside the church” gave me the creeps. If I had not known it was him nor what church he leads, I would have guessed that it was a statement made by the leader of a “Christian” cult.

Are you talking about this comment?

"Wanting to live with Jesus without the Church, following Jesus outside of the Church, loving Jesus without the Church is an absurd dichotomy."

That is pretty much standard Catholic doctrine and has been for 2,000 years. Compare this to St Paul's words in Ephesians:

Eph 5:22 Wives, be subject to your husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. 24 As the church is subject to Christ, so let wives also be subject in everything to their husbands. 25 Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, 26 that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27 that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. 28 Even so husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no man ever hates his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, as Christ does the church, 30 because we are members of his body. 31 "For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh." 32 This is a great mystery, and I mean in reference to Christ and the church;

St Paul compares the relationship of Christ and His Church to a marriage...where the two become one flesh.

4 posted on 04/24/2013 4:22:27 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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