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To: cuban leaf

The Church is the Body of Christ. We literally cannot find Christ outside His Church.

The stumbling block may be that we are thinking of the word ‘Church’ in a restrictive sense.

If we think of The Church as “all the people who are being saved by Christ + all those who have died in a state of grace + the Holy Angels” then things may become clearer.

The Church is an iceberg. It has its visible part and its invisible part.

Its visible part is the clearest expression and embodiment of Christ - most especially in the Sacraments.

But where we find Christ in an unexpected place, there we have also brushed against His Church. Hidden, fugitive - but also real and salvific.


6 posted on 04/24/2013 5:48:32 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: agere_contra

In the Religion forum, on a thread titled Cardinal Pell: “We’ve got a Pope who’s got mud on his boots”, agere_contra wrote:
The Church is the Body of Christ. We literally cannot find Christ outside His Church.

The stumbling block may be that we are thinking of the word ‘Church’ in a restrictive sense.

If we think of The Church as “all the people who are being saved by Christ + all those who have died in a state of grace + the Holy Angels” then things may become clearer.

The Church is an iceberg. It has its visible part and its invisible part.

Its visible part is the clearest expression and embodiment of Christ - most especially in the Sacraments.

But where we find Christ in an unexpected place, there we have also brushed against His Church. Hidden, fugitive - but also real and salvific.


I was following you right up to the “iceberg” sentence. I don’t really know what you are saying from there on, unless you are bringing up the spiritual aspect of it.


7 posted on 04/24/2013 6:01:14 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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