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In Theory: Has the economy damaged the work ethic?
The Burbank Leader ^ | April 26, 2013

Posted on 04/27/2013 7:48:09 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

Sociologist Max Weber first advanced the idea of a Protestant work ethic in 1914. A recent study suggests that not only does this ethic exist, it can make the effects of unemployment worse for Protestants than for non-Protestants.

The Dutch survey, which used data from 150,000 people in 82 countries traditionally identified as Protestant — including the U.S., U.K., South Africa, Germany and others — found that while unemployment has a negative effect on everyone, it affects Protestants more, up to 40% more in some cases. Dutch economist Dr. André van Hoorn, who led the study, said, "We found that the work ethic does exist, and that individual Protestants and historically Protestant societies appear to value work much more than others." Cary Cooper, professor of Organisational Psychology and Health at Lancaster University in England, said, "People who had followed the work ethic for years found themselves without a job [after the 2008 crash]; all the sacrifices – working long hours, not seeing the kids – had not worked out…. We may find that's damaged the work ethic and people are putting less focus on work and more on a balance between work and the rest of their life."


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture; Religion & Science
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...while unemployment has a negative effect on everyone, it affects Protestants more, up to 40% more in some cases. Dutch economist Dr. André van Hoorn, who led the study, said, "We found that the work ethic does exist, and that individual Protestants and historically Protestant societies appear to value work much more than others"....

"....all the sacrifices – working long hours, not seeing the kids – had not worked out…. We may find that's damaged the work ethic and people are putting less focus on work...."

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1 posted on 04/27/2013 7:48:09 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy
The work ethic will return after the economic collapse and the global war.
2 posted on 04/27/2013 7:51:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
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To: Alex Murphy

Why don’t you ask a question that makes sense?


3 posted on 04/27/2013 7:52:08 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Why don’t you ask a question that makes sense?
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Well, in theory, theory and practice are the same. But, in practice, they’re not.

Does that help?


4 posted on 04/27/2013 7:56:03 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (a)
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To: InterceptPoint
Absolutely. Another armature parody thread.
5 posted on 04/27/2013 7:59:14 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA
armature = amateur.
6 posted on 04/27/2013 8:00:22 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Alex Murphy

For me traditional work and pay by the hour sucks.

That’s why I’ve been in sales and owned businesses .

Didn’t care for my job....I left.

Didn’t care for my business...sold it or closed em.

Moved on to the next shiny thing that gets my attention.


7 posted on 04/27/2013 8:06:35 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: DManA
Why don’t you ask a question that makes sense?

What question did I ask?

8 posted on 04/27/2013 8:13:01 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: Alex Murphy

I’ll be honest with you, after all the deadbeats I see buying top notch food with their EBT’s and after I noticed that the bombers in Boston had better cars, clothes and weapons that I had while on welfare, I ask myself, why try?


9 posted on 04/27/2013 8:14:45 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Alex Murphy

I think it’s backwards, people got complacent after so much success.

Too many people thought prosperity was an entitlement, and lead to the collapse.

However, I think many people who are wavering about it will see the current situation to justify their laziness.


10 posted on 04/27/2013 8:20:21 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Jim from C-Town
"I’ll be honest with you, after all the deadbeats I see buying top notch food with their EBT’s and after I noticed that the bombers in Boston had better cars, clothes and weapons that I had while on welfare, I ask myself, why try?"

Because doing what is right is worth more than money and things. That is why we keep doing it the right way.

11 posted on 04/27/2013 8:22:30 PM PDT by Dust in the Wind (U S Troops Rock)
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To: Dust in the Wind

I am not so sure.


12 posted on 04/27/2013 8:24:53 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Alex Murphy

The Economy has not ruined the work ethic...the DEMOCRATS/RINOS and their faulty policies have....what you reward is what you get more of....


13 posted on 04/27/2013 8:27:01 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

I am and getting damn tired of theives!


14 posted on 04/27/2013 8:29:58 PM PDT by Dust in the Wind (U S Troops Rock)
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To: Alex Murphy

In this economy I think there is a fine line between losing your work ethic and going Galt.


15 posted on 04/27/2013 8:34:48 PM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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To: DManA

Absolutely. Another armature parody thread.
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Hmmmmmm. I’m thinking that maybe, just maybe, that comment wasn’t intended to be a compliment. But I could be wrong, at least in theory. In practice it is rare.


16 posted on 04/27/2013 8:35:26 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (a)
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To: Alex Murphy

I never found europeans to be particularly hard-working, so that blows that theory.


17 posted on 04/27/2013 8:36:54 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Alex Murphy

The one that ended with a question mark?


18 posted on 04/27/2013 8:37:28 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Alex Murphy

“The thief has come to kill, rob and destroy.” So anyone who points a finger at anyone for destroying anything is rooting in satan and as it gives evil cover.

Like Satan ‘tried’ to rob people of God’s Word through ‘man made teachings’ God sent one to unleash His Word and left them with the counterfeit/ man made teachings because the gates of hell will not prevail against His Church.

Proverbs 10:22 “The blessing of the LORD brings wealth, without painful toil for it.”

And those who believe HIS Word alone is blessed, blessed, blessed. And the believers of man made teachings need to toil hard for it for they listened to ‘another voice’.


19 posted on 04/27/2013 8:44:37 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Dust in the Wind

That is all we have in this country it seems.

The illegals are ALL THIEVES! They steal from us everyday. They drive on our roads, put their children in our schools and use our hospitals ALL FOR FREE. They aren’t even supposed to be here. If they do it, we all should. We have $17 trillion in debt and have around $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities, We are all just waiting for the big collapse. Why work too hard?


20 posted on 04/27/2013 8:57:47 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town
"Why work too hard?"

"Too hard?" is subjective. I work 50-70 hours a week, rest, get groceries and go to church on my time off and sleep well when I sleep. I also let my government critters know how I feel about what is important to me; they mostly vote the same way.

21 posted on 04/27/2013 9:13:21 PM PDT by Dust in the Wind (U S Troops Rock)
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To: Dust in the Wind

If you worked 10 hours at McDonalds and cohabitated with the mother of your children, you could live just as good of a life style through government benefits. You could simply learn to do some plumbing or home repairs and work for cash for some tax free spending money. If that didn’t work, apply for SSI.

My point is we have gotten to the point that if you do not make a great deal of money working, you are better off NOT working. The hours are better, there is a lot more free time and you don’t seem to suffer from malnutrition, homelessness or even a bruised ego.

The deadbeats all demand respect. God forbid if you Dis’ them.


22 posted on 04/27/2013 10:26:09 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

The illegals are ALL THIEVES!

They have the cooperation and support of the people we elected to serve us. It is time to replace them all, all in one fell swoop. We need to rid ourselves of the liars and corrupt, greedy legislators.


23 posted on 04/27/2013 10:28:41 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( There's Two Choices. Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered.)
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To: Alex Murphy
We're done....it's just a matter of time before everything collapses.
Everything!
24 posted on 04/27/2013 10:59:35 PM PDT by blam
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To: Alex Murphy

I spent 18 months unemployed, with about a year on unemployment. I was disgusted by what I became during that time.

Luckily, I found a new job and rebuilt my life and work ethic.

Being on the dole saps your soul. You begin to justify the free money and can create excuses for sleeping late, failing to find a new job and everything else.


25 posted on 04/27/2013 11:05:18 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
In Theory: Has the economy damaged the work ethic?

When you rob a man and take from him the fruits of his hard labor, only to turn around and give it to someone who would even consider working, you remove any incentive for them to work at all.

Why is the left so blind that they can't understand these basics principles? In the end, these truths that they simply discard will consume them.

26 posted on 04/28/2013 6:10:24 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It will return when you cannot make a living, albeit modest, on welfare / disability / EITC.


27 posted on 04/28/2013 6:55:16 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Shadow44
"I think it’s backwards, people got complacent after so much success."

America's social fabric has changed. America's greatest generation who survived an economic depression and won a world war are dead or dying. Necessity builds a common social work ethic and sense of self reliance. That part of the American social fabric is disappearing as the post war generations have not known real hardships or threats. History and demographics influence what we become, a collective society that rejects work and self reliance. There are a great number of individuals today who retain the old character traits, but they are becoming a distinct minority.

28 posted on 04/28/2013 8:27:16 AM PDT by buckalfa (Tilting at Windmills)
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To: Alex Murphy

NO, public policy has damaged the work ethic. Why work if you can collect funds under a few different identities with maybe non-existent dependents sweetening the pot?


29 posted on 04/28/2013 2:36:49 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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