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Protestant Perseverance and Catholic Decline?
First Things ^ | April 30, 2013 | James R. Rogers

Posted on 04/30/2013 3:28:16 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

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To: ansel12

Like I said church going Catholics and church going protestants vote the same way, and non-church going Catholics and protestants vote the same way. Makes no difference at all what demonination someone might be. Practicing christians do not vote democrat. End of story.


21 posted on 04/30/2013 9:58:08 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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That simply isn't true even the most ultra conservative Catholics are only somewhat conservative, and it doesn't change the fact that republicans have won the Catholic vote 5 times in our history, and that the democrats have won the Protestant vote 3 times, 1932, 1936, and 1964 and Protestant isn't a single denomination but includes black churches and left wing Episcopalians, etc.

Look at this chart for 2004, even racially pure white Catholics, devout, church going still only went about 3% more republican than Protestant Hispanics, and about 24 points below their Evangelical counterparts, or even slightly less than the liberal mainline Protestant denominations.

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22 posted on 04/30/2013 10:29:09 PM PDT by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult)
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“That simply isn’t true even the most ultra conservative Catholics are only somewhat conservative”

Let me get this straight. I am a Catholic and if I got any further to the right I’ll run into the Atlantic Ocean. All my Catholics friends believe in exactly the same things that I do. That is no abortion of any type, for any reason. No homosexual marriage, no homosexual civil unions. No women ordination. I believe in building a fence around the US, and my friends believe in the same thing. I believe in a strong national defense and the defense of this country. I support the US military 100%. The military does not make the sometimes boneheaded decisions that affect them. These are made by the politicians who call the shots. But I always support the military. I retired as a senior NCO in the US Air Force. I am a Vietnam Veteran. I also believe in a balanced butget and I don’t believe in borrowing from Peter to pay Paul.

Most of my Catholic friends believe exactly like I do. So can you please tell me what you consider the “somewhat conservative” views that I have listed above. I’d sure like to know. One more thing. I started voting in 1968 and I have never in my life voted for a democrat at any level. Never. I have occasionally voted for the Constitution Party candidate, because he was a hell of a lot more conservative than the republican who was running.


23 posted on 05/01/2013 7:11:17 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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Good Lord man, no one is talking about you as an individual, or any other individual.

Voting in presidential elections are about large groups, the Catholic denomination vote majority pro-abortion democrat, a minority of Catholics are of varying degrees of conservatism.

But as a group, even “conservative” Catholics aren’t exactly right wingers, that is why even when you separate the most conservative sub category of Catholic, it still doesn’t vote like a denomination such as Southern Baptist for instance.


24 posted on 05/01/2013 7:37:17 PM PDT by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult)
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Church going Catholics vote conservative. Exactly the same way as church going protestants. The exception being blacks, who vote based on the color of someone’s skin. The only Catholics that consistently vote for democrats are Catholic in name only. This can not be said of protestants. Hundreds of thousands of black protestants, who consider themselves Christians and go to church a couple of times a week, flock to the polls and vote for the most pro-abortion, homo-marriage-loving candidate who ever lived, ONLY BECAUSE of the color of his skin. What should be investigated are why blacks vote for someone who wants to abort their children, since 75% of abortions are performed on young black girls. The most reliable democrat voting block in American are blacks. No other group even comes close.


25 posted on 05/01/2013 7:49:53 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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Church going Catholics vote conservative. Exactly the same way as church going protestants.

God, this is amazing.

Try and look way, way back, like to post 22.

26 posted on 05/01/2013 7:57:50 PM PDT by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult)
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Looks to me like “weekly attending white Catholics and weekly attending white Protestants” are almost identical.

What you need to figure out is why do you have a distain for Catholics. I’ve had these silly debates with you before. Without Catholics, who stood alone after Roe v. Wade, there would be no pro-life movement in this country.
There has been Catholic orphanages close down because they will refuse to play a child in a homosexual home. The Catholic Church has no liberal or gray areas when it comes to social issues,unlike many of the some 35,000 protestant faiths, which are as different as night and day. Their is no structure in these faiths and no authority figure. Each and every protestant faith waves in the wind trying to figure out how to deal with social issues, when the only thing necessary is to open up the Bible. Like the Constitution, the Bible does not change with the times.


27 posted on 05/02/2013 7:56:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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That simply isn't true even the most ultra conservative Catholics are only somewhat conservative, and it doesn't change the fact that republicans have won the Catholic vote 5 times in our history, and that the democrats have won the Protestant vote 3 times, 1932, 1936, and 1964 and Protestant isn't a single denomination but includes black churches and left wing Episcopalians, etc.

Look at this chart for 2004, even racially pure white Catholics, devout, church going still only went about 3% more republican than Protestant Hispanics, and about 24 points below their Evangelical counterparts, or even slightly less than the liberal mainline Protestant denominations.

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28 posted on 05/02/2013 12:41:34 PM PDT by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult)
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To: ansel12

Source?


29 posted on 05/02/2013 7:29:14 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Source for what or which?


30 posted on 05/02/2013 7:33:31 PM PDT by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult)
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To: ansel12

The charts at post 28.


31 posted on 05/02/2013 7:35:06 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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Here it is.

http://field.com/fieldpollonline/subscribers/COI-05-Jan-Demography.pdf


32 posted on 05/02/2013 7:39:35 PM PDT by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult)
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