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College unsure if naked woman mocking pope violates 'our community standards
Life site ^ | Ben Johnson

Posted on 04/30/2013 7:12:11 PM PDT by Morgana

PITTSBURGH, April 30, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Catholics in Pennsylvania and around the country are outraged after learning that a college student dressed as the pope from the waist up – and nude from the waist down – handed out condoms in an event organized by Carnegie Mellon University's art department. The university has said in a release that it has not yet taken action against the student, who shaved her pubic hair into the shape of a cross, because it is still investigating whether the incident violates “our community standards.”

CMU spokesman Ken Walters said, “We are continuing our review of the incident. If our community standards or laws were violated, we will take appropriate action.”

Local ordinances forbid public nudity, and university officials have confirmed that photos of the nude woman accurately depict the April 18 event.

Bishop David Zubik of Pittsburgh reached out to the university after hearing reports – and receiving photographs – of the incident.

The “Carnegie Mellon Code” says students “are expected to meet the highest standards of personal, ethical, and moral conduct possible.”

Bill Donohue of the Catholic League says CMU's inaction is “morally indefensible.” He noted that late last month the university indefinitely suspended the activities of the Beta Theta Pi fraternity upon reports that its members had taken sexually explicit photos and videos inside its frat house and shared them with members.

“But when it comes to a female student who walks the streets naked from the waist down while mocking the pope, the administrators are much more relaxed: she has not been suspended during a probe of this matter,” Donohue said.

“What if instead of shaved pubic hair in the shape of a cross, a student chooses to depict a swastika?” Donohue asked.

Bishop Zubik says he does not want this woman punished for her own sake. “What I do want to have happen is that this person could learn an important lesson: That prejudice, bigotry, there's no place for it,” he said.

He noted he would feel the same if she had disrespected any religion.

Local media News Catcher 31 broadcast interviews with only two students, both of whom defended the woman – one, Ivy Kristov, who said it was “all in good fun” and another, Kyri Baker, who said it fell under “freedom of speech.”

Bishop Zubik said the event and its response raises uncomfortable questions. "It's not a matter of pointing to one young lady,” the bishop said. “We have to ask what could cause things in our society that would make her think it's acceptable to do something like this. I hope that this gives every one of us the opportunity to pause and think about what it is that we say to one another, and how it is that we say what we say."

Contact:

Gina Casalegno, Dean of Students: ginac@andrew.cmu.edu


TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: catholic; college; pope
I am unsure as to what these people are smoking.
1 posted on 04/30/2013 7:12:11 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

NRA t shirt BAD , Naked GOOD


2 posted on 04/30/2013 7:14:11 PM PDT by molson209
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To: Morgana

I’m going to go ahead and say that given this woman’s ideological proclivities, that pictures are definitely not needed in this thread.


3 posted on 04/30/2013 7:15:28 PM PDT by garbanzo (Welcome to the jungle, it gets worse here every day)
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To: Morgana

Old shoes?


4 posted on 04/30/2013 7:15:47 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Sarah is right.)
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To: Morgana

...dress up in a Chewie suit and parade around campus as Moochell and see how long it takes before your cuffed and detained...


5 posted on 04/30/2013 7:16:14 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Morgana

Perhaps I ought to shave my pubic hair in the shape of a crescent.


6 posted on 04/30/2013 7:16:37 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: garbanzo

Just post a pic of Helen Thomas and people will get the point.


7 posted on 04/30/2013 7:17:03 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

“Local media News Catcher 31....”

I live literally 5 miles away. I’ve never heard of this local media outlet.

There is a group of Oratorians who serve this campus. I’m praying forthem this evening. What wonderful priests they are. Talk about entering the lion’s den!


8 posted on 04/30/2013 7:18:05 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: Morgana

The big asteroid is entering the atmosphere, and it’s starting to glow.


9 posted on 04/30/2013 7:19:11 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

LOL! I’m seeing it!


10 posted on 04/30/2013 7:20:45 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Sarah is right.)
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To: Morgana

“Community standards”? We are a college. We don’t need no “community standards”.

Oh how low Pittsburgh has come from the time they had great workers and less intellectuals (though Carnegie-Mellon did a lot of work for the government on defense projects during WW2, and they gave us Steve Bocho (producer of Hill Street Blues and “LA LAW”, with actors Michael Tucker, a friend of mine, and Bruce Weitz).

I wonder if the Un. of Pittsburgh is as confused about “community standards”?


11 posted on 04/30/2013 7:21:15 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Morgana

I’m not sure what is happening in our society that would cause people to do these things... What about no push back from those in authority? What about a bishop that has all the conviction of a bucket of warm spit? What about a society that does not teach its kids to have respect.

I am becoming very disappointed in many of our religious “leaders”. Where is the outrage?


12 posted on 04/30/2013 7:21:31 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: molson209
You parents out there think long and hard about if and were you send your kids off to college. If you are not careful they will come home with their heads screwed on crooked and will have become a person you no longer recognize.
13 posted on 04/30/2013 7:28:44 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: Morgana

I guess a lot of it depends on what community one lives in.

That would definitely be considered taboo where I live.


14 posted on 04/30/2013 7:31:51 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: Morgana

I’m guessing that had she been half dressed as an ayatollah, with her pubes shaved into the shape of a star and crescent, she would have already been stoned to death as a hate criminal.


15 posted on 04/30/2013 7:32:33 PM PDT by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: Morgana

If they have to consider, probably not as the community standards for a whore house or meth house aren’t exceeding high.


16 posted on 04/30/2013 7:50:56 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The Team: Progressives, Margret Sanger, Josef Mengele and the Butcher of Philadelphia)
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To: Morgana

The students should have stopped this.


17 posted on 04/30/2013 8:01:50 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: garbanzo
You are likely correct about the pictures.

One can only imagine what the perp looks like, and it ain't Paulina Porizkova, that's for sure...........

18 posted on 04/30/2013 8:02:33 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: cradle of freedom

My thoughts exactly. That and the fact that with the election of progressive “leaders” these idiots feel empowered.


19 posted on 04/30/2013 8:02:38 PM PDT by RRismyhero (Mr. Obama - You can keep your change.)
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To: Travis McGee

Where the Hell do people like this come from? Who in their right mind could ever think this is a valid way to “protest” against anything?


20 posted on 04/30/2013 8:06:34 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Morgana
because it is still investigating whether the incident violates “our community standards.”

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume it doesn't violate their "community standards."

21 posted on 04/30/2013 8:17:59 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Morgana

Let someone make a derogatory comment about homosexuality and they will reach a consensus with lightning speed.


22 posted on 04/30/2013 8:20:13 PM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: Morgana
And yet a college in Florida was sure that teaching children to stomp on Jesus did not offend community standards, but complaining about it did.

-PJ

23 posted on 04/30/2013 8:28:26 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Texas Vet, I assure you that the standards of whore houses are considerably higher than the community standards at Carnegie Mellon. CMU spokesman Ken Walters says the university is reviewing the incident to determine if community standards were violated. That is all we need to know. This disturbed, undoubtedly unattractive woman got her 15 minutes of fame. It would take real courage to mock Islam or any of the liberal shibboleths; homosexual marriage, diversity, etc.


24 posted on 04/30/2013 8:42:44 PM PDT by Vehmgericht
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To: Morgana

Obviously, Carnegie Melon has no standards. Andrew Carnegie is rolling over in his grave. What ugly people populate that indoctrination center!


25 posted on 04/30/2013 8:42:57 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Morgana

Bishop Zubik is really annoying me here. The girl is personally responsible for being vulgar and mean. Blabbing about what is wrong with Society will not save her soul. If Zubik really believed in Hell, he would be concerned enough about her to condemn her sin and point the way forward to her. Even Jesus told the adultress to go and sin no more. The Bishop should at least say its a sin and tell her not to do it again.


26 posted on 04/30/2013 8:47:26 PM PDT by married21
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To: Morgana

ask them if a naked guy mocking mohammed violates their “community standards”.


27 posted on 04/30/2013 9:21:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: molson209

“our community standards.” CMU spokesman Ken Walters said, “We are continuing our review...

What community standards? clearly they don’t have any!


28 posted on 04/30/2013 9:28:56 PM PDT by munin
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To: All

I should take a dump on a “Rainbow Flag” and call it “Shit Art”

Except I would be arrested for a “Hate Crime” and locked up for 5 years.


29 posted on 05/01/2013 12:45:00 AM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield ("Ban 'Assault Politicians' as they are assaulting our Constitutional rights!")
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To: surroundedbyblue
There is a group of Oratorians who serve this campus.

I read that like Onorato. Dan Onorato.

30 posted on 05/01/2013 7:13:26 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

Oh goodness no!!!

Www.pittsburghoratory.org

These priests are the Catholic campus ministers.


31 posted on 05/01/2013 7:41:07 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: Morgana
I filled in the unspoken parts for those who aren't familiar with university-speak. University-speak is like government-speak, only more politically correct, absurd, and Orwellian.

CMU spokesman Ken Walters said, “We are continuing our review of the incident (to see if we can find some loophole to get her off because as good PC individuals we recognize the importance of her message) . If our community standards or laws were violated (and of course, they weren't because we will only apply them if we are sympathetic with the offended party), we will take appropriate action (which, if taken, will be trivial and for appearance only).”

32 posted on 05/01/2013 12:14:20 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: Morgana
I filled in the unspoken parts for those who aren't familiar with university-speak. University-speak is like government-speak, only more politically correct, absurd, and Orwellian.

CMU spokesman Ken Walters said, “We are continuing our review of the incident (to see if we can find some loophole to get her off because as good PC individuals we recognize the importance of her message) . If our community standards or laws were violated (and of course, they weren't because we will only apply them if we are sympathetic with the offended party), we will take appropriate action (which, if taken, will be trivial and for appearance only).”

33 posted on 05/01/2013 12:15:33 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: Morgana

Let them asks themselves this- if a naked women was mocking Mo’ would they have a different feeling?

That mental gear shift they would be feeling is called HYPOCRICY


34 posted on 05/01/2013 12:19:42 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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