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Notre Dame Professor Tackles ‘Myth’ of Christian Martyrdom
Yahoo News ^ | 5/3/13 | Liz Goodwin

Posted on 05/03/2013 10:50:36 AM PDT by marshmallow

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To: dragonblustar

You know, this is foolish. She is debunking the first 300 years. Otranto has nothing to do with it.

The reaction here on FR is childish. There’s plenty to criticize in the book. But the ignorance on display here is disgusting.


21 posted on 05/03/2013 11:19:38 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Houghton M.

Yeah, Chick prof just randomly picks a chick martyr as legit.


22 posted on 05/03/2013 11:19:45 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: RatRipper

She is not saying that that is not martyrdom. She’s saying that some stories portray that as the cause of the execution when other factors were the real cause.

And she’s right, in some cases, that did happen. The issue is whether it happened in most cases or only a few.

Stop shooting from the hip.


23 posted on 05/03/2013 11:21:20 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: marshmallow

This gal seems clueless about the process of bringing a people to subjection. Every step along the way to the Holocaust could be minimized and excused using her rationale.

The idea of government REQUIRING that Christian organizations provide coverage of birth control and abortion but those groups simply trusting that their employees would never actually use it is sort of like government saying that companies have to provide the date-rape drug to their employees but trust that the employees will never use it.

Why make Christian groups pay for something they consider to be immoral, if they’re never going to use it?

Because even if their employees didn’t use the date-rape drug, forcing companies to pay for it ensures that date-rape drugs will still be manufactured and used by SOMEBODY. IOW, the money that Christians throw into the date-rape-drug “pool” may not be used by their own employees, but it WILL be used by SOMEBODY.

Christians are thus forced to pay for others to sacrifice their own children. They are being required to pay for Molech’s altar, on which other people’s children will be offered as sacrifices. They don’t have to do the actual kiling themselves, they just have to watch silently and pay Hitler’s salary while he gets others to do the killing.

If this gal is too stupid to understand that, then she misunderstands all of history. Why would the church hire somebody that stupid?


24 posted on 05/03/2013 11:21:46 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Houghton M.

“Radner’s criticism was not so much that she’s wrong about the first 300 years”.

Let me guess. Southron Baptist?

Gosh, it’s like bias is difficult to find.


26 posted on 05/03/2013 11:22:31 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: marshmallow
as I was preaching to my dtr just yesterday, unless one has proof positive that something happened, or didn't happen, you can't just SUPPOSE something.....

but its of no consequence to me....we see with our own eyes how Christians/Catholics are murdered around the world....we don't have to SUPPOSE that the very same thing didn't happen back in the days of pagan society...

27 posted on 05/03/2013 11:23:03 AM PDT by cherry
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To: JCBreckenridge

Radner is a conservative Episcopalian. Your prejudice is showing.


28 posted on 05/03/2013 11:24:11 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Houghton M.

“THere were so many prominent women martyrs, genuine women martyrs that to accuse her of randomly picking a woman is calumny.”

Right. I’m arguing that a chick prof just magically came up with a list of six, and only six martyrs that passed her mystical ‘sniff test’, they mention this chick and none of the other six. I think they call that serendipity. It’s good that we have such exceptional and insightful professors adding to our vast store of knowledge of the past.


30 posted on 05/03/2013 11:26:20 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: Houghton M.

I gathered that she was episcopalian.

They also kind of like that whole ‘sacred feminine gig’.

No, I was talking about you. Southron Baptist?


31 posted on 05/03/2013 11:27:45 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: marshmallow

I’m very familiar with this topic and this lady is crazy but of course the reason she is doing this is because she knows this will be repeated as a preface disclaimer in the msm media when this topic comes up because we all know that one liberal prof trumps hundreds of years of scholarship to the contrary.


33 posted on 05/03/2013 11:30:43 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: Maelstorm

Article also makes sure to say that Candida is a ‘practicing’ Catholic. So now she’s fair game for us. :)

I’m interested enough by Houton’s defense to see what I can find out about her.


35 posted on 05/03/2013 11:33:42 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: Rocky

Well, he did get crosswise with the Roman authorities....


37 posted on 05/03/2013 11:34:10 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: JCBreckenridge

Radner is episcopalian. Moss is Catholic. Do you know how to read?


38 posted on 05/03/2013 11:34:22 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Maelstorm

http://the-american-catholic.com/2013/03/12/the-myth-of-candida-moss/

I think this video of hers should be enough to discard that whole ‘practicing Catholic’ argument.


39 posted on 05/03/2013 11:37:53 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: Houghton M.

Who supports abortion and homosexuality. She’s an CINO, really an episcopalian.

Anyways, as for you - you’re a Southron Baptist?


40 posted on 05/03/2013 11:38:45 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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