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The Sex Lives of Unmarried Evangelicals (80 percent have had sex)
Christianity Today ^ | May 2, 2013 | Ted Olsen

Posted on 05/03/2013 1:52:23 PM PDT by NYer


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TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
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1 posted on 05/03/2013 1:52:23 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

These statistics could be applied to any religious group. The key to understanding this is in the question of how many “read the Bible” versus those who do not. IOW, how may actively practice their faith vs those who do not. This model is applicable across the board.


2 posted on 05/03/2013 1:54:20 PM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: NYer

Culturally its expected and normal for people to be sexually active.

Of course that is biblically wrong but peer pressure is powerful.


3 posted on 05/03/2013 2:02:36 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
I'd like to see the same survey for the married ones.

/johnny

4 posted on 05/03/2013 2:08:32 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper; driftdiver

With their spouses or other people? ;-)


5 posted on 05/03/2013 2:10:22 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: NYer
I tend to doubt the number is as high as 80%. Even if it is, show me the numbers of practicing Evangelicals. Betcha its somewhat lower to say the least.
6 posted on 05/03/2013 2:11:41 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Well, if they’re reading their Bibles they’re finding that they should not deprive each other and they’re supposed to drink water from their own wells...

I would hope that married people who attend church are loving their spouses in all the right ways. =)


7 posted on 05/03/2013 2:14:57 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: NYer

Yep to #2


8 posted on 05/03/2013 2:16:39 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: NYer

He is the vine; we are the branches. If we remain in Him we will bear much fruit, but apart from Him we can do nothing.

Remaining in the Word is critical to everything good.


9 posted on 05/03/2013 2:16:58 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: NYer
Unmarried Evangelicals (80 percent have had sex)

In other news, America has a 20 percent chance of surviving the Obama presidency!

10 posted on 05/03/2013 2:30:09 PM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: NYer

What is about human nature that causes us to obsess about whom other people are having sex with? We just can’t stand it if other people are happy?


11 posted on 05/03/2013 2:31:00 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: NYer

We have all failed, one way or the other, in living the idealized lifestyle that God wants us to live.

The key is that we can access the grace that has been promised to us all to make those requisite changes.


12 posted on 05/03/2013 2:35:35 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: NYer

When I was young, I’d have settled for a 10% hit ratio.


13 posted on 05/03/2013 2:42:16 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: NYer

Do you mean to tell me that Christians are sinners? Say it ain’t so.

We’re fallen and redeemed ... not immune to temptation. We try. We fail. We try again.

SnakeDoc


14 posted on 05/03/2013 2:42:36 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: NYer

Paradox hormones raging , G-d given physical desires. It is tough to be young especially in this day


15 posted on 05/03/2013 2:42:40 PM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: NYer
Christians aren't perfect. Whatta shock.
16 posted on 05/03/2013 2:46:00 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: driftdiver

Not just peer pressure. Genetics. The urges are powerful.


17 posted on 05/03/2013 2:48:48 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight,, he'll just kill you.)
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To: NYer

18 posted on 05/03/2013 2:49:13 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I'd like to see the same survey for the married ones.

/johnny Ouch.

19 posted on 05/03/2013 2:49:47 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: NYer

I was so drunk, I honestly don’t remember......


20 posted on 05/03/2013 2:49:52 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: NYer

Kind of like planned children, I’ve heard 60-70% of children are unplanned, I suspect it is a lot higher though, kind of like 90% of men will admit they wank off, why 10% of men lie about it.


21 posted on 05/03/2013 3:00:15 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite (1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: Vaquero; driftdiver; St_Thomas_Aquinas
Not just peer pressure. Genetics. The urges are powerful.

Actually, it is the effects of Original Sin.

22 posted on 05/03/2013 3:03:18 PM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: butterdezillion
That's a nice thought. Humans seem to not do what they should do.

/johnny

23 posted on 05/03/2013 3:30:11 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
>> show me the numbers of practicing Evangelicals. <<

Hmmm... wouldn't they all be "practicing", since they believe they've been "born again" and "saved" and now "have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ"? These aren't mainline protestants or Catholics they're surveying.

24 posted on 05/03/2013 3:37:10 PM PDT by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Vaquero; St_Thomas_Aquinas

Yes the urges come from original sin. My point was sitting back and arguing that religious people are having sex is missing the point. When people immature in their faith (or walk with Christ) hear that topic they perceive it as condemnation of them. It pushes them further away from God because they don’t understand the context.

In todays world abstinence is abnormal and many people of both sexes wouldn’t date someone who didn’t have sex until marriage. At least according to my single friends.

If you spread the word on the hard rocky ground it won’t grow.


25 posted on 05/03/2013 3:39:36 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: NYer
This is interesting. I suppose you have this same survey of your own church? How do Catholic youth stack up in the sexual morality department vis-a-vis Evangelical youth?

That would be even more interesting. It wouldn't be quite such a partisan gotcha post, though.

26 posted on 05/03/2013 3:43:56 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: driftdiver
In todays world abstinence is abnormal

Single, celibate, and sane here. Watch who you call abnormal. ;)

/johnny

27 posted on 05/03/2013 3:48:29 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

That’s the fallen human nature.

It’s too bad though, because doing what you’re supposed to is really fun. lol


28 posted on 05/03/2013 3:53:19 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: NYer
I agree that this could apply to any group.

I'm glad to see it made clear that the party taking the survey defines their own terms and depending on what definitions they use can basically get any result they want.

29 posted on 05/03/2013 3:56:53 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: NYer

Marriage at 28 is ahistorical and represents a burden for most. Not to mention the effects on the next generation.


30 posted on 05/03/2013 4:03:02 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

In this case abnormal is good. Sane however might be a stretch there. :)


31 posted on 05/03/2013 4:05:05 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Tim Tebow was probably desired all the more because he made it clear he is a man of principle and purity. I think a woman wants to know that a man would honor her by giving her what he would give nobody else. Then it means something. And it’s probably the same for a man.

It’s good for spouses to not have to battle memories and comparisons. There are enough tough things to work through without that added burden. The most important sex organ in the body is the brain. Injuring or mis-programming it can be about as damaging as whacking off the other parts. There is forgiveness and new beginnings are possible but it’s a tougher road, I think. A wedding ring doesn’t magically change the tendencies and thought processes of a lifetime.

If the Lord wills (and if you’re interested. lol), you’ll have a heckuva lot to offer the wonderful woman He provides for you. =)


32 posted on 05/03/2013 4:07:54 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: NYer

I’m a baptist. For a short time, we attended a Southern Baptist church locally. Our teen daughter went to their high school Bible study. About a month later, the couple teaching the Bible study asked us to pull our daughter for being insensitive.

Seems they were discussing premarital sex (and apparently that was a topic most of the time), and our daughter asked insensitive questions like, “What is so hard about saying no?”, or, “God’s opinion is pretty clear, isn’t it?” She even said “If the boy REALLY loved you, he would want you to wait!”

It seems those ideas were too judgmental, and indicated she didn’t understand how overpowering the sexual urge was.

We decided their brand of morality differed too much from ours, and found a baptist church (also SBC, incidentally) a few miles in a different direction.


33 posted on 05/03/2013 4:18:45 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: mel
Its not that hard to avoid "doing it," IMHO. Its not something that can just happen. Enough time goes into getting the dirty deed done (find a place to do it, get undressed, etc) that at some point along the way you should be able to hear God's Word ringing in your brain get control of yourself.

Again, IMHO.

34 posted on 05/03/2013 4:24:46 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: butterdezillion
As I told my brother, He will have to send an Archangel, with parting of clouds, much thunder, and a notarized scroll before I would consider marriage again.

/johnny

35 posted on 05/03/2013 4:37:21 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: driftdiver
Sane is a relative term. I'll always be 'eccentric', I'm a southern gentleman.

But giving a woman that hates me a house because I can't control my emotions/hormones is certainly not sane behavior.

I make better decisions with the head on my shoulders. ;)

/johnny

36 posted on 05/03/2013 5:10:03 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: NYer

Interesting.


37 posted on 05/03/2013 5:33:33 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: driftdiver

Christ said, “I am the truth” not I am the custom.

Follow the Bible, not the modernisn heresy.


38 posted on 05/03/2013 5:34:43 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Thanks for your preachy response, perhaps you can read and understand the message before judging.


39 posted on 05/03/2013 5:38:26 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

lol. Sounds like you’ve learned to appreciate some aspects of the single life. Contentment is a wonderful place to be.


40 posted on 05/03/2013 6:12:57 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Mr Rogers

She could come to my Bible study any time. We’ve talked about why anybody would want to do it, and aside from mere curiosity (for the uninitiated) or knowing it’s fun (for the experienced) the answers are different for guys than for girls. In both cases, though, the reasons are largely selfish and short-sighted and the kids seemed to appreciate very frank and honest discussion about it. I don’t think we’ve got any kids who sleep around, though, so maybe that’s why they didn’t think the honesty was “insensitive”.


41 posted on 05/03/2013 6:20:22 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

I think it’s different if people regularly put themselves in situations where it wouldn’t take much preparation and there’s no accountability. Stuff like a lot of time with nobody but the 2 of you in a dorm room, etc. Or times when the female is emotionally vulnerable.


42 posted on 05/03/2013 6:23:07 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Mr Rogers
I’m a baptist.

You are also well versed in the faith. I once had a Baptist co-worker. The young man had recently married in a Baptist Church. Both were quite active in their church's ministry. One day I suggested that he and his bride must be looking forward to settling down and starting a family. He said that neither one of them liked children and did not plan on having any. I asked if they had divulged this to their minister prior to the marriage. He said his minister had no problem with this at all. I was shocked!

43 posted on 05/03/2013 7:32:17 PM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: NYer

Most Baptists don’t view children as a necessary part of marriage.


44 posted on 05/03/2013 7:50:32 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
As NYer said up at the top of the thread,

These statistics could be applied to any religious group. The key to understanding this is in the question of how many “read the Bible” versus those who do not. IOW, how may actively practice their faith vs those who do not. This model is applicable across the board.

Since the article itself is from a non-Catholic, broad-appeal Christian magazine (Christianity Today), and since NYer has explicitly invited us to apply it to any denomination, I think it's clear that this is nsot a partisan, gotcha post.

My evidence speaks for itself.

Most of us don't much like a religious gotcha post, no matter which way it slices.

45 posted on 05/04/2013 3:11:52 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my all.)
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To: driftdiver
Yes the urges come from original sin.

I doubt the urge to have sex is from original sin. Sex was God's idea and design for men and women. The urge to have it would be a natural part of it, even before the fall.

46 posted on 05/04/2013 4:47:57 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
"I doubt the urge to have sex is from original sin."

Conjugal love that is both unitive and procreative in its intent is a gift from God. Concupiscence, on the other hand, is a consequence of original sin.

Peace be with you

47 posted on 05/04/2013 5:18:35 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave is a book, He left us a Church.)
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