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Pope Francis Urges Bishops to Deny Communion to Pro-Abortion Catholics
Breitbart's Big Peace ^ | May 4, 2013 | Dr. Susan Berry

Posted on 05/04/2013 8:26:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 05/04/2013 8:26:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pope Francis, please send a similar note to all the Bishops of the United States.


2 posted on 05/04/2013 8:29:11 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Finally! I hope it happens here soon too.


3 posted on 05/04/2013 8:29:19 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Would love to see this happen in the USA, particularly with any elected official who claims to be Catholic and pro-choice. I suspect the retribution would be swift and expensive for the Catholic churches and schools.


4 posted on 05/04/2013 8:30:43 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Salvation

I assume the article meant every bishop in the world, including here.


5 posted on 05/04/2013 8:30:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

God bless him and protect him from the left.


6 posted on 05/04/2013 8:30:59 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


Direct the same to ALL bishops here in the USA and I and millions of other will REJOICE!

FWIW, this is one of my faithful prayers!


7 posted on 05/04/2013 8:31:13 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

First line:

**Pope Francis has directed the bishops of Argentina, his home country**


8 posted on 05/04/2013 8:33:54 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good. Now direct the bishops in America! I want the photographs of the Bidens walking home in the cold after being denied!


9 posted on 05/04/2013 8:34:27 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Salvation

How’d I miss that?


10 posted on 05/04/2013 8:34:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Salvation

If he does and enforces it, I’m back.


11 posted on 05/04/2013 8:34:46 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because ???


12 posted on 05/04/2013 8:36:38 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Old Sarge; NorthernCrunchyCon; UMCRevMom@aol.com; Finatic; fellowpatriot; ...
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13 posted on 05/04/2013 8:36:39 PM PDT by narses
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To: Norm Lenhart

A lot of people would come back.

But then, some don’t give a rip.


14 posted on 05/04/2013 8:37:55 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This Pope seems OK so far.

I wonder if he would deny Communion to a Kennedy and also not allow a divorce, oops I mean an annulment. It doesn’t seem there is any real difference for Kennedys.


15 posted on 05/04/2013 8:38:21 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: Salvation

If this pope shows spine / enforces doctrine and they don’t care, they don’t matter.


16 posted on 05/04/2013 8:39:15 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Salvation

I don’t understand your question.


17 posted on 05/04/2013 8:39:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well well well...


18 posted on 05/04/2013 8:40:02 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With Biden, Kerry, and Pelosi, their politics dictates their faith, when it should be the other way around.


19 posted on 05/04/2013 8:40:34 PM PDT by Freestate316 (Know what you believe and why you believe it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was going to say Because you were too excited. But that would be mind-reading and I can’t do that so I just wrote Because ?? And I will let you fill in the blank space as to why you missed the first line.


20 posted on 05/04/2013 8:44:59 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Even though he specifically directed this to bishops of Argentina, an instruction of this type (Administration of the Holy Sacrament during Mass) from the Head of the Church could only reasonably be interpreted as applying to bishops worldwide by implication, although he could be expected to make that explicit later on. After all, it is not a different version of Catholicism in Argentina. So I kind of agree with you.


21 posted on 05/04/2013 8:46:39 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: vladimir998

This is a reference to a letter approved by Pope BENEDICT in 2007.


22 posted on 05/04/2013 8:50:05 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Freestate316

I don’t see why they would want to take communion. What purpose does it serve them?


23 posted on 05/04/2013 8:50:58 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

PR with ‘fellow’ Catholics. Everything is PR for them And good PR or they don’t do it.


24 posted on 05/04/2013 8:55:03 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Salvation

Yes, I do get in a rush to post a thread sometimes. One of the few places where I’m competitive, for some reason. It often ticks me off when someone posts an article that I’ve already posted. Maybe I should take an “anger management” course or something. LOL


25 posted on 05/04/2013 8:55:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

They want to maintain the appearance of having faith in God, when their true faith is in liberalism and government.


26 posted on 05/04/2013 8:57:24 PM PDT by Freestate316 (Know what you believe and why you believe it.)
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To: Freestate316

Biden and Nancy Pelosi were welcomed to the Vatican and received communion during the Popes’ inauguration some weeks ago.


27 posted on 05/04/2013 9:01:58 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hallelujah!


28 posted on 05/04/2013 9:02:37 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Had a feeling I was going to like this guy.


29 posted on 05/04/2013 9:05:39 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: faithhopecharity

(Said in the very kindest, most admiring possible way:) it appears that this Holy Father maybe doesn’t sing the very highest notes in the choir. Pray he follows through on this, it could do a lot of good.


30 posted on 05/04/2013 9:06:20 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: Salvation

Most bishops are like the GOP-e. They want to please everybody and still have ‘values’. No bishop will do the right thing and tell Pelsoi to take a hike.


31 posted on 05/04/2013 9:09:54 PM PDT by x_plus_one (John Ransom: truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition.)
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To: x_plus_one

How do you know this for sure?


32 posted on 05/04/2013 9:24:20 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

:-D


33 posted on 05/04/2013 9:38:44 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Salvation

By Historical example.

The truth many Catholics refuse to face is that their leadership has ignored church doctrine out of political fear of what government will do in backlash, rather than enforce biblical and church doctrine.

I don’t like it either but I refuse to deny the truth and continue to empower them to do more of it. They do not need the Pope to tell them what they very well know. But God takes a back seat again.


34 posted on 05/04/2013 9:45:22 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, that’ll end the honeymoon. Can’t for the life of me understand why this was directed only to his home country.


35 posted on 05/04/2013 10:13:04 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Waiting to hear a clear confirmation of this. I hope they deny Communion to Chief Justice John Roberts.


36 posted on 05/04/2013 10:15:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: ansel12
If this is just the start of what will be mandated globally, all I can say is, "I'll believe it when I see it.". Because I am Pro-life, I welcome ANY actions that will help to lessen the number of abortions that occur on a daily basis. Maybe if American Catholic politicians came face-to-face with a leader who means what he says and says what he means and does all he can to ensure his decisions are implemented, they just might have a change of heart. I'm not naive enough to believe they all will, but maybe enough will so that it does make a difference in further abortion laws.

Yet, even if this Pope manages to actually make great strides in calling unrepentant pro-abortion Catholics to the carpet and puts teeth into his declarations, forcing them to choose their religion over politics, it will not affect my decision to remain separated from the Roman Catholic Church. As important as the abortion issue is, it doesn't trump the Gospel as the highest priority. Until the Catholic Church returns to teaching justification by grace through faith in Christ apart from works - as the early church did, they will remain separated from God teaching an accursed gospel.

37 posted on 05/04/2013 10:45:48 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No communion or Catholic rite of burial!


38 posted on 05/04/2013 10:58:06 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: boatbums
Maybe if American Catholic politicians came face-to-face with a leader who means what he says and says what he means and does all he can to ensure his decisions are implemented, they just might have a change of heart.

Whether we can reach cold calculating powerful individual politicians is one thing, no church can necessarily do that, what I want is an ugly public battle, a pro-life confrontation, a drawing of the lines, a clear war message that reaches the Catholic voters, that penetrates through the Catholic fog, that forces the Catholic voters who are coasting and blocking out the absolutes, to see the democrat party as something unacceptable to Christians and to Catholics.

That Catholic message better happen fast because the GOP is slowly drifting to soften their pro-life position and social stances to win over those voters. Conservatives are in serious danger of not having a major social conservative party to vote for.

39 posted on 05/04/2013 11:05:09 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
The truth many Catholics refuse to face is that their leadership has ignored church doctrine out of political fear of what government will do in backlash, rather than enforce biblical and church doctrine.

That doesn't explain their politics in America, it wasn't fear, it was a political goal, now the question is, life and traditional marriage, Christian conservatism, etc, or liberalism and unions, welfare, immigration, social justice, big city machine politics, etc.

40 posted on 05/04/2013 11:11:39 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: Mach9

Maybe this was brewing before he became Pope.


41 posted on 05/04/2013 11:46:26 PM PDT by married21
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To: Salvation

He’ll probably tell the same to the new bishop in Oakland, CA. That’s some undertaking, given the “progressive” politics of the region.


42 posted on 05/04/2013 11:48:07 PM PDT by thecodont
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I hope Chief Justice John Roberts is the very first person in the U.S. to be denied communion. The traitor.


43 posted on 05/05/2013 12:26:34 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: ansel12

were they?
If so therein lies a huge credibility problem for the Pope


44 posted on 05/05/2013 3:56:44 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Grams A

.....Or rather it MAY get those CINOS to do a little thinking and doing some repenting.


45 posted on 05/05/2013 4:01:00 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: ansel12

But now that this Pope has settled in, the rules ARE GOING TO BE ENFORCED.


46 posted on 05/05/2013 4:04:53 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: ansel12

Conservatives have the Tea Patty!


47 posted on 05/05/2013 4:06:22 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is from a letter he wrote in 2007 to his fellow bishops when he was archbishop of BA.

When it was ignored, there was no followup.

He certainly has it within his authority to order this in Argentina, or worldwide, but that has not happened.


48 posted on 05/05/2013 4:06:40 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: boatbums

In truth, the Church is being faithful to the Gospel of Jesus by taking a stand against abortion.


49 posted on 05/05/2013 4:08:10 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: ansel12

Conservatives have, the Tea Party, correction!


50 posted on 05/05/2013 4:09:18 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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