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Who does the Western Wall belong to?
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 5/6/2013 | LEAH AHARONI

Posted on 05/06/2013 5:51:53 PM PDT by Former Fetus

The Women of the Wall would have us believe that they are defending the Western Wall for everyone.

Considering that after 25 years and massive public relations efforts the group can hardly gather 100 women on a good month, the assertion sounds ludicrous.

Can you imagine so small a fringe group demanding to do as it pleases at the Vatican? Westminster Abbey? St.Patrick’s Cathedral in New York? Mecca? At any place of worship in the world? That’s not freedom of religion, that’s anarchy! The Women of the Wall can argue all they want that the Kotel is not a synagogue and has no tradition.

The claim is patently false.

There is a 1,700-year-long documented history of Jewish prayer along the Western Wall and at least 500 years of a prayer tradition at the current location. Lest you think the Jews prayed in the Reform fashion until the evil haredim (ultra-Orthodox) showed up and usurped the power, think again. There is ample photographic evidence to prove it.

The time has come to state the truth, simple and unadorned: The Western Wall doesn’t belong to the Women of the Wall. The Western Wall belongs to its 10 million visitors a year, who respect the sanctity and decorum of the site. The Western Wall belongs to millions of Jewish women and men, who come to pray here every day and oppose introducing any changes to the site. These people come to reaffirm their connection with the spiritual, to unburden themselves of their troubles, to reconnect with God on His terms, following the footsteps of their ancestors for generations.

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TOPICS: Judaism; Religion & Culture; Worship
KEYWORDS: haredim; kotel; westernwall; womenofthewall
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1 posted on 05/06/2013 5:51:53 PM PDT by Former Fetus
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To: Former Fetus
Opinions, anybody?

Remove all Muslims from the Temple Mount, and bulldoze the Dome of the Rock.

3 posted on 05/06/2013 5:54:21 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I like your thinking!


4 posted on 05/06/2013 5:56:48 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: F15Eagle; PapaBear3625

I agree, but that’s not what the article is all about. It is about whether or not women (the Women of the Wall) have the right to pray at the Wall wearing tefillot and tallitot.


5 posted on 05/06/2013 5:59:14 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Former Fetus

I’m not Israeli. I’m not even Jewish. It’s not an issue I really care about, so I’m bowing out of this thread.


7 posted on 05/06/2013 6:03:56 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Former Fetus

the WoW are a bunch of feminazis fighting the patriarchy. if they were legit, they’d be the womenof the Temple Mount, but they would give both away to Islamonazis


8 posted on 05/06/2013 6:06:40 PM PDT by hecht (america 9/11, Israel 24/7)
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To: Former Fetus

I agree, but that’s not what the article is all about

I just scanned the article but I guess I missed that part.


9 posted on 05/06/2013 6:06:43 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: PapaBear3625

The Dome of the Rock is built on the site of Roman Stables.

It was the only place not knocked down by the Romans in the Jewish Revolt, because it was a Roman, not a Jewish building. When the Arabs took over, they built on it, not knowing that the foundation was Horse manure.


10 posted on 05/06/2013 6:09:16 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I’m not Israeli or Jewish, but I am interested in the attacks on organized religion by so-called feminists. I have been amazed by how easily churches that accept female ministers end up accepting homosexuality! I personally don’t know what to think of the haredim, but I will support anybody who defends traditional worship. Jewish or Christian.


11 posted on 05/06/2013 6:09:48 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Former Fetus

The West?


12 posted on 05/06/2013 6:09:49 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Former Fetus

The Jews.


13 posted on 05/06/2013 6:20:15 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: donmeaker
I hadn't heard that about the Roman stables--but the city was Roman for a long time (Aelia Capitolina, after the emperor Hadrian's family name of Aelius). It would make sense that Mohammed's horse would take his launching spot from a horse stable, for the night trip to heaven.

Was the Western Wall built at the time of Ezra and Nehemiah, or by King Herod?

14 posted on 05/06/2013 6:25:35 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: donmeaker

Its fitting as the whole foundation of Islam is Horse pucky.


15 posted on 05/06/2013 6:35:20 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Solomon, King Davids son.


16 posted on 05/06/2013 6:36:13 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Former Fetus

Our Creator owns everything..and He wills the who, what,where, when, why and how..


17 posted on 05/06/2013 6:40:28 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Former Fetus
Traditional Jewish prayer - minyanim of men wearing tallitot, tefillot and kippot - has been performed at the Wall continually for at least 2500 years, if we assume that wall was only part of the Second Temple.

These feminist mockers have been engaging in this charade for 25 years, on and off.

The argument that consists of: "We highly respect all the external trappings of tradition - texts, garments, rites, gestures - but we want to use them in a way contrary to the entire history of that tradition" is nonsensical.

18 posted on 05/06/2013 6:40:36 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Verginius Rufus

The current western wall is all that is left of Herod’s temple.

After the conversion of Constantine in the 4th Century, there was a lot of building that supported pilgrimage/tourism. Constintine’s mother (Helen) toured Jerusalem, and (knowing she was coming) the locals had a number of things that they helped her find. For example, three crosses were dug up, but it was unknown which was ‘the True Cross’ so they were each, in turn applied to a woman with ‘a headache’. After the third was applied, she miraculously was healed, so that must have been ‘the True Cross’.

They said one was better off as Herod’s pig than as his son. He had one of his son’s killed for disobedience, but Herod was a Jew by religion, and was reported to keep kosher.


19 posted on 05/06/2013 6:51:52 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: wideawake

This article is ultra-Orthodox propaganda. They are anti-democratic, draft dodge the army en masse, are no longer wanted in the government, massively unpopular among the general population, and all these women request are their basic rights as citizens, which they are entitled to.


20 posted on 05/06/2013 7:24:39 PM PDT by idov
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