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"Cardinal Dolan Denies Catholics Entry at Cathedral Because of Dirty Hands"
NC Register ^ | May 6, 2013 | Pat ARCHBOLD

Posted on 05/06/2013 6:49:59 PM PDT by NYer

See that headline? It is the disingenuous creation of self-important anti-Catholic protestors.

Joseph Amodeo writes at the Huffington Post about the "raw emotions" about being "denied a seat at Christ's table" and how as a result he feels "disowned, abandoned, and lost. "

Oh the melodrama of it all.

See, Joey and nine of his pals protested at St. Patrick's Cathedral in favor of gay rights. Their protest signs were their dirty hands. This junior high tactic was in response to Cardinal Dolan's column last week in which he said that LGBT people were welcome in the church so long as they washed their hands. In otherwords, everybody who wants to be there for the right and respectful reasons is welcome.

Joey and his pals marched to the Cathedral where they were told they could not enter unless they washed their hands. Remember, their dirty hands were their protest signs. So they were denied entry to mass with their protest signs. If they dropped the signs (washed their hands) they would be welcome. If you bring your protest inside, you will get arrested.

Joey then goes into hyperbolic melodrama overdrive.

In response to the Archdiocese's threat of arrest, we opted to remain outside where we stood in silent vigil with our palms turned out facing toward the main doors of Cathedral. As the start of the Mass drew near, the temporary steel doors that mark the front of the Cathedral while the original doors are refurbished, seemed to be symbolically appropriate. The cold steel and the means by which the doors closed as we stood outside seem now to capture well the chill that we felt from the Cathedral's staff as well as the Cardinal. Our peaceful presence was responded to with a resounding "you are not welcome."

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TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; homosexualagenda


1 posted on 05/06/2013 6:49:59 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Cardinal Dolan was not there on Sunday, ping!


2 posted on 05/06/2013 6:50:42 PM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: NYer
Their demand: they want to be the only sinners in the cathedral who exult in their sins rather than repent them.

They seem to be unclear on the concept of why the cathedral exists in the first place.

3 posted on 05/06/2013 6:55:22 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: NYer

Talk about idiots! haha.


4 posted on 05/06/2013 6:56:41 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: NYer
Per Archbishop Charles J Chaput:

We make a very serious mistake if we rely on media like the New York Times, Newsweek, CNN, or MSNBC for reliable news about religion. These news media simply don’t provide trustworthy information about religious faith—and sometimes they can’t provide it, either because of limited resources or because of their own editorial prejudices. These are secular operations focused on making a profit. They have very little sympathy for the Catholic faith, and quite a lot of aggressive skepticism toward any religious community that claims to preach and teach God’s truth.

5 posted on 05/06/2013 6:58:01 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: NYer

What is the difference between the grubby hands of these malcontents and the bloody hands of the demon worshipper biden whom the cardinal invited for “coffee and communion”?

The cardinal seems able to stand up against the vermin who are relatively powerless, but can’t seem to stand up against the infinitely-dirtier but dramatically more powerful biden.


6 posted on 05/06/2013 6:58:21 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: wideawake

You hit the nail on the head.....

They want to celebrate their sin inside the church, not repent it....


7 posted on 05/06/2013 6:59:54 PM PDT by nevergore
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To: NYer

Sounds like they got the attention they were seeking. We’re ALL called to lead chaste lives. The Church isn’t asking anything of homosexuals that it isn’t asking of every other Catholic: To honor marriage between one man and one woman and to be chaste within and outside of marriage. Pretty simple concept really.


8 posted on 05/06/2013 7:00:39 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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To: sitetest
Good point.

The problem is not that he stood up to these creeps.

The problem is that he doesn't stand up to creeps in political office.

9 posted on 05/06/2013 7:01:08 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer

So, in other words, even though they supposedly go to confession it seems these men are practicing homosexuals that flaunt their sins. I guess they don’t understand “go and sin no more”. I’m sure they would have gone to communion. For them to expect a priest to put the Eucharist into dirty hands is another abomination.


10 posted on 05/06/2013 7:11:44 PM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: sitetest

Well said.


11 posted on 05/06/2013 7:31:13 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: NYer

We need a nelson picture. Stat!


12 posted on 05/06/2013 7:33:16 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: wideawake

They seem to be unclear on the concept of why the cathedral exists in the first place.


Shouldn’t they just join a church that has their beliefs. The Cardinal couldn’t/doesn’t make any changes in the Catholic Doctrine.


13 posted on 05/06/2013 7:49:03 PM PDT by o-n-money
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To: NYer

Funny they have no interest in protesting at mosques, but when the muslims take over they will come after gays of all religions.


14 posted on 05/06/2013 7:52:34 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: NYer

I guess the church has to accept the whole lgbt perversion. By what justification does anyone have to be bisexual? And transgenderism is an illness.


15 posted on 05/06/2013 7:56:02 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: NYer

“Technically they have more than just dirty hands.”

I think now of the scripture:

“They ‘strut’ their evil before you”....


16 posted on 05/06/2013 7:57:02 PM PDT by caww
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To: NYer

Homosexual Hissy-Fit!


18 posted on 05/06/2013 8:46:20 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: NYer

It is interesting they themselves recognize they are unclean.


19 posted on 05/06/2013 8:50:47 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing
It isn't clear whether this happened yesterday or earlier.

The first reading on May 5 was from Acts 15. In verse 29 the word porneia (fornication) is mentioned among the particular prohibitions the new Gentile converts are being warned about...unfortunately the new translation obscures what the text says. I forget the exact wording but it was something like "irregular marriages."

Jewish morality was much stricter than Greco-Roman morality, so it is understandable that the converts would be admonished to avoid prostitutes (their pagan neighbors probably saw nothing wrong in going to brothels).

20 posted on 05/06/2013 9:51:46 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: NYer

These people are idiots but then again, Dolan lets someone like Biden who has blood on his hands come in and receive communion so you can see why nitwits think they should be allowed to show disrespect and disobedience every bit as much.


21 posted on 05/06/2013 11:57:11 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: NYer

most people are embarrassed and ashamed of their sins, habitual sins. don’t try to demand others tell them they are wonderful because of their sin. they don’t try to define themselves by their sinm. don’t spend their lives’demanding others pat them on the back for being such a good sinner. don’t demand laws protecting them because of their sins.

put any other sin besides homosexuality in in place of that word, and see how ridiculous we are treating gays today.


22 posted on 05/07/2013 12:49:09 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: kaehurowing; Secret Agent Man
It is interesting they themselves recognize they are unclean.

The most astute observation and comment on this thread! As freeper SAM comments,

most people are embarrassed and ashamed of their sins, habitual sins. don’t try to demand others tell them they are wonderful because of their sin. they don’t try to define themselves by their sinm. don’t spend their lives’demanding others pat them on the back for being such a good sinner. don’t demand laws protecting them because of their sins.

Shame has turned to pride, albeit through the legal system. Yet, subconsciously, as you well noted, they recognize their uncleanliness. No doubt the same is true for those who participate in abortions.

23 posted on 05/07/2013 3:02:09 AM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: NYer

But if Joe Biden shows up for communion, on problem. He and Dolan can yuck it up together afterwards too.


24 posted on 05/07/2013 5:59:55 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: NYer

Homosexuality today is the clear case for why the legal system must be rooted (as it has been) in Judeo-Christian underpinnings. Otherwise if/as society decays, it’s natural inclination, perversion and insanity are legalized, and remedies and corrections to said insanity and perversion, are outlawed and made punishable.

See the liberals will say “don’t push your morality on me!” while having no problems pushing their low-bar secular morality that punishes you for objecting, onto you.

Ultimately all law is based in morality. It’s a question of whose morality do you want it to be? A morality based on God’s Word, or a morality based on whatever is most popular with whoever’s currently in power at the moment, and whatever the current emergency and crisis is.


25 posted on 05/07/2013 10:07:25 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Otherwise if/as society decays, it’s natural inclination, perversion and insanity are legalized, and remedies and corrections to said insanity and perversion, are outlawed and made punishable.

Thank you, again, for the astute commentary. Once again, it draws me back to then Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger's PRO ELIGENDO ROMANO PONTIFICE homily, delivered on April 18, 2005.

How many winds of doctrine have we known in recent decades, how many ideological currents, how many ways of thinking. The small boat of the thought of many Christians has often been tossed about by these waves - flung from one extreme to another: from Marxism to liberalism, even to libertinism; from collectivism to radical individualism; from atheism to a vague religious mysticism; from agnosticism to syncretism and so forth. Every day new sects spring up, and what St Paul says about human deception and the trickery that strives to entice people into error (cf. Eph 4: 14) comes true.

It was approximately 3 in the morning here on the East Coast and I woke up, turned on the tv just at the point when he said the above. It has remained with me ever since.

26 posted on 05/07/2013 11:35:04 AM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: NYer

14Then he called to the crowd again and told them, “Listen to me, all of you, and understand! 15Nothing that goes into a person from the outside can make him unclean. It’s what comes out of a person that makes a person unclean. 16If anyone has ears to hear, let him listen!”

17When he had left the crowd and gone home, his disciples began asking him about the parable. 18He asked them, “Are you so ignorant? Don’t you know that nothing that goes into a person from the outside can make him unclean? 19Because it doesn’t go into his heart but into his stomach, and then into the sewer, thereby expelling all foods.” 20Then he continued, “It’s what comes out of a person that makes a person unclean, 21because it’s from within, from the human heart, that evil thoughts come, as well as sexual immorality, stealing, murder, 22adultery, greed, wickedness, cheating, shameless lust, envy, slander, arrogance, and foolishness. 23All these things come from inside and make a person unclean.”

(Mark 7:14-23)


27 posted on 05/07/2013 12:31:56 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: NYer
Cardinal Dolan was not there on Sunday, ping!

So, we really don't know if Cardinal Dolan would have shooed them away, do we? Hmmmm.....

28 posted on 05/07/2013 2:52:53 PM PDT by piusv
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