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To: topher; CynicalBear; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...

I can’t imagine staying in an organization that condemns homosexuals for having *dirty hands* and yet allows priests with hands equally defiled to lift up and *consecrate* the host, which is supposed to be the body of Christ.

Do those parishioners know what those hands who are serving them what they call *Holy Communion* have been doing on the side?

When those priests who have molested children eat of the host and drink of the cup, I wonder why they don’t shrivel up like the guy from Raiders of the Lost Ark when He drank from the wrong chalice.

But all we hear is *Once a priest, always a priest*, as long as his intent is right, hey, we’re all sinners, nobody is perfect.

I can’t imagine receiving communion from hands so defiled, with what they done and where they’ve been.

How can any sane person rationalize it?.


15 posted on 05/09/2013 4:53:57 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

Do you pay property taxes?


19 posted on 05/09/2013 8:51:21 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: metmom; topher
Because what is important is not the pastor or preacher in front, but the High Priest namely Jesus Christ Himself that is present in the Eucharist

If you want to support the homosexual activists, go ahead.

20 posted on 05/09/2013 11:42:16 PM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: metmom

The good news is that house cleaning is ongoing.


22 posted on 05/10/2013 5:11:41 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: metmom
"I can’t imagine staying in an organization that condemns homosexuals"

Those are your words. There is no denying that. See what one is able to do when selectively presenting portions of a statement. Do you mind if I selectively quote you in the future when you post incomplete or out of context snippets of Catholic doctrines and dogmas?

23 posted on 05/10/2013 5:58:18 AM PDT by Natural Law (Peace is not the absence of war, it is the completeness of communion with God.)
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To: metmom
I share your feelings. Intellectually, I buy the argument that the priest is acting in the capacity of a Christ-instituted office, and so the worthiness of the individual isn't important but rather only the validity of the office is important. This was historically speaking decided once and for all by St. Augustine in the Donatist controversy.

That said, on an emotional level, I share your disgust. I was raised a Catholic and the revulsion I feel for the clergy for their sins of omission and commission over so many decades really destroyed my morale. Nearly all the priests I had contact with growing up in Wisconsin were gay. Some of them openly gay. A few even preaching gay rights from the pulpit. Putrid. It really got so I couldn't look at a roman collar without puking.

I'd like to find a congregation that doesn't tolerate fags at all, but that is Catholic in its basic theology. Still looking.

24 posted on 05/10/2013 9:22:35 AM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: metmom

priesthood is an office.

If a priest is guilty of sin, he can still validly say the mass for others: for that is him acting in the office of the priesthood, but when he does so he is commiting a personal sin.

The holiness or sinfulness of the actor who takes Jesus’ place in celebrating the mass does not make the Mass itself invalid...

As a doc, I see it this way: Being a doctor is also an “office”: I could be the worst sinner in the world, but if I give you the correct antibiotic you will get better. Same here.

as for the quote about being a priest forever: That is a Biblical quote...Hebrews 7:17.


29 posted on 05/10/2013 6:12:30 PM PDT by LadyDoc
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