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To: Diana in Wisconsin; NYer; Le Chien Rouge; NVDave; Huskrrrr; JudyinCanada; DManA; Longbow1969
Diana: No disrespect to His Holiness, but we’ve been living in a ‘disposable society’ since after WWII.

We've been living in a disposable society longer than that.

Le Chien Rouge: It is not the cult of money that is causing so much misery in this world but rather the lack of personal as well as economic liberty imposed by heavy handed government rule

Any economic system, without God, produces slavery.

NVDave: Let’s look at the accumulated wealth of the Roman Catholic Church

What accumulated wealth is this? In 2011, they ran a deficit of almost €15M.

Huskrrrr: Money is NOT the root of all Evil. The love of money is.

Exactly. That's why he said the "cult" of money.

JudyinCanada: The problems arise when money becomes your god. Money, in and of itself, is merely a tool, albeit a necessary one.

Precisely. And this is really emphasized in Luke 16:19-31, Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 19:16-24, etc.

DManA: The solution to these ills is more economic freedom, not less.

With God, you are right. And I don't believe you would find him calling for increased control in his actual words.

Longbow1969: High population (former 3rd world) countries replaced socialist policies with capitalist ideas and the result of an exploding middle class.

I think the issue is not talking about government control over economics, rather about the responsibilities of individuals within those economies.

15 posted on 05/16/2013 4:56:29 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
I think the issue is not talking about government control over economics, rather about the responsibilities of individuals within those economies.

Bull. There is no way to sugarcoat what this pope is saying:

Pope Francis denounced “ideologies which uphold the absolute autonomy of markets and financial speculation, and thus deny the right of control to States, which are themselves charged with providing for the common good.”

This is socialist claptrap. Period. This is exactly the kind of thing you'd expect to hear from an economic leftwing Argentinian - which is exactly what Pope Francis is.

18 posted on 05/16/2013 5:02:50 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: markomalley

Good post.


27 posted on 05/16/2013 6:35:29 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: markomalley

“Accumulated wealth” being real estate, possession of other property, etc.

Showing me a cash flow deficit has nothing to do with wealth. That’s like Warren Buffett claiming poverty because he didn’t make a profit this particular quarter.


31 posted on 05/16/2013 6:49:04 PM PDT by NVDave
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