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Pat Robertson Tells Wife of Cheater, ‘He’s a Man’
ABC ^ | 5-17-2013

Posted on 05/17/2013 10:38:14 AM PDT by markomalley

Televangelist Pat Robertson is under fire once again after telling the wife of a cheating husband to get over the infidelity and provide a better home so he doesn’t “wander.”

Robertson was responding to a letter from a woman identified as Ivy during Wednesday’s episode of “The 700 Club.” Ivy wrote, “We have gone to counseling, but I just can’t seem to forgive, nor can I trust. How do you let go of the anger? How do you trust again?

Robertson’s co-host began to answer the letter when the one-time Republican presidential hopeful interjected with the “secret” to getting past the cheating.

“Stop talking about the cheating. He cheated on you. Well, he’s a man. O.K.,” Robertson said.

Robertson suggested the wife forget about the incident and focus on why she married her husband in the first place, advising she try to fall in love with him again. The televangelist rolled out a series of questions for Ivy to think about.

“Does he provide a home for you to live in? Does he provide food for you to eat?” Robertson asked. “Is he handsome?”

But it was the way Robertson ended his response that set off a firestorm.

“Males have a tendency to wander a little bit, and what you want to do it make the home so wonderful that he doesn’t want to wander,” he said.

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TOPICS: Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: adultery; infidelity; patrobertson
Somebody help me out here...is Robertson saying that the Sixth Commandment doesn't apply if the husband is good looking?
1 posted on 05/17/2013 10:38:14 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Oh, so it’s only the woman’s responsibility... I see. I guess I thought part of being married was the vow to be faithful to one another and to God. I can’t wait to tell my wife we were wrong!


2 posted on 05/17/2013 10:40:37 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: markomalley

I think Pat Robertson popped a few blood vessels in his brain while he was leg pressing 2000 pounds.


3 posted on 05/17/2013 10:40:58 AM PDT by Alex in chains
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To: markomalley

I’m surprised ABC found Roberston’s statement controversial. Males are scum is one of the basic assumptions their journalists make when reporting anything gender related.


4 posted on 05/17/2013 10:41:30 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: markomalley
'cause, after all, he's just a maaaaaaaaaan ...
5 posted on 05/17/2013 10:43:45 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (3 guns when you only have one arm? "I just don't want to get killed for lack of shooting back")
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To: NonValueAdded

So did he he convert to Islam or register as a Democrat? He, it worked for Hillary Clinton.


6 posted on 05/17/2013 10:46:07 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: markomalley

Biblical Christians believe the Scripture “God Hates Divorce”. I am aware that The Catholic Church is also very much against divorce. Jesus gives adultery as the ONLY reason for divorce, because of the hardness of people’s hearts. So what should Robinson say? Should he suggest divorce because the woman can’t seem to forgive, even with counseling? I know he stated it awkwardly, and probably was not even helpful to this lady, but what would you have suggested?

I probably would have said, “Leave the jerk”, but would that have been the best answer for a Christian?


7 posted on 05/17/2013 10:46:09 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: markomalley

8 posted on 05/17/2013 10:46:46 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: markomalley
That reminds me of the old SNL skit about the Senate confirmation hearings of Justice Clarence Thomas.

Teddy Kennedy (in questioning him about alleged sexual harassment): “Have you ever tried getting out of the shower wearing just a towel and then dropping the towel and pretending you didn't know anyone was in the room?”

9 posted on 05/17/2013 10:51:55 AM PDT by Osama Obama
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To: markomalley

Gee, how outrageous he says the obvious. Course all of the other media says the same thing 24/7/265, but this is Pat Robertson so bring out the feigned outrage.

Pray for America to Wake Up


10 posted on 05/17/2013 10:52:31 AM PDT by bray (Surviving to spite Obama)
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To: markomalley
How convenient that this comes along at this moment. As if it were almost designed to provide a foil to Democrats, as in, "See how evil these women hating Conservatives are? You want them in charge?"
11 posted on 05/17/2013 10:52:35 AM PDT by Obadiah (High speed, low drag.)
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To: left that other site

Why not give the best answer for a human?


12 posted on 05/17/2013 11:02:59 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Obadiah

Oh, look, a squirrel.


13 posted on 05/17/2013 11:03:49 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: markomalley

I wish he’d SHUT UP!!!!


14 posted on 05/17/2013 11:12:45 AM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: markomalley

Disgusting


15 posted on 05/17/2013 11:13:21 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: markomalley

He’s senile and needs to retire.


16 posted on 05/17/2013 11:35:49 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: markomalley
Can somebody help me and explain why ABC thinks this is news?

Oh, right.....it's the American media trying to expose the most important scandals in the US..../s

17 posted on 05/17/2013 11:37:46 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: markomalley

No. She asked him how she could get over the cheating, and he told her to think about the things that made her fall in love with him in the first place, and the good things in their relationship. That’s the context of him asking if he is good looking, not that it would excuse his cheating.


18 posted on 05/17/2013 11:41:58 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: markomalley

Ok.... so Pat blew it with his incredibly clumsy answer and for the most part, this is the kind of story that is difficult to comment on without more information. My guess is that he was trying to combine some concepts out of Matthew 18: 21-22 and 1 Corinthians 7:1-5….one passage speaks to the issue of forgiveness and the other of the roles of husbands and wives (it’s obviously infidelity for one of the parties to commit adultery but it’s also infidelity to withhold sex from your lawfully wedded spouse).


19 posted on 05/17/2013 11:43:06 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: markomalley

Ole Pat is on about the same level as this guy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me2H7Ja93Wg


20 posted on 05/17/2013 11:47:45 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: markomalley
He sinned, that is not the question. The question is what does she do to forgive him. He is saying that if you want to remain married you are going to have to look at his strengths rather then his failings.

If she doesn't she will not be able to stay with him.

21 posted on 05/17/2013 11:47:51 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Join AAAA : Americans Against Acronym Abuse)
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To: left that other site

The woman involved needs to answer a few deeper questions regarding her self. Does she harbor the anger feeling as though she now has an excuse to divorce the man in question and put her self “back on the market”? Does she in fact truly love him? What sorts of passive aggressive games did she play in the marriage? Is she bitter that ultimately her Husband was not the Christ she hoped he was?

Sure the man cheated and bears the primary blame for that sin. Yet if he has truly repented and gone thru the personal hell of examining why he did what he did and has thrown himself on the mercy of God, asking for total inward change, then what is the woman holding on to that she can not see her husband as the imperfect man that he is...recognizing that for the grace of God...she too, could have committed adultery?

For all that, if there has been such a breach that the wife simply can not come to a place of relative trust and active forgiveness(77 times 7), then they might have to at least separate since an atmosphere of recrimination and back biting will exist between these two, no matter how much “work” they try to put into it!

People often make the mistake of trying to find “heaven and God” in the other, a kind of spiritual “co-dependency” when we all have a responsibility personally to “die to self and carry our own crosses daily”. This can lead to dryness and heightened “fulfillment” expectancies of one another that no one on this Earth can ever supply. I’m not talking about Fidelity because that is a behavior that all marrieds are to maintain...but I’m talking about deeper needs and aspirations that only the Holy Spirit can supply to each individual.

We all hear songs about being the “other’s all in all” and express sentiments about “being your lover’s everything”...yet those are very high spiritual bench marks no one can ever attain for the spiritual fulfillment of one another. This is why I think many marrieds, both men and women, will stray and cheat. We expect each other to fill the God shaped vacuum that only God can fill, yet at the same time we may wish to be in a relationship where the partner simply accepts us as the imperfect (but trying) man or woman that we, in fact are!

It is ironic then that while we give lip service to the very Christ who showed us grace and forgives our sins and imperfections, that we expect our spouses to be totally God like in our care and fulfillment of one another; then throwing them away or committing infidelity when they are not the Christ that we expect them to be!


22 posted on 05/17/2013 11:47:59 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Rest assured, Mankind is loved....both completely and severely!)
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To: markomalley

“Stop talking about the cheating. He cheated on you. Well, he’s a man. O.K.,” Robertson said.

I think most of you have completely missed the mark here. Robertson was not saying it was ok to cheat on your wife, but what he was saying was after the man repented and returned home, how the wife continued to hammer him about it. Only a fool would not realize how destructive that would be to rebuilding the relationship.

I suppose it would have been better had every time she brought it up, he could have reminded her that the other woman had been at least younger, prettier, sexier...whatever. No you say? Working on rebuilding a relationship takes both parties working on rebuilding. Anyone who continues to remind someone of their failures is not looking to rebuild a relationship, they are looking to make sure that there is hell to pay each and every day of the other persons life.

I look at this article and draw two conclusions...One is that it is not OK to cheat on your wife...but two, if you do leave and never come back because rebuilding the relationship is not an option.

23 posted on 05/17/2013 11:51:39 AM PDT by garybob (More sweat in training, less blood in combat.)
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To: markomalley

Senile fool.


24 posted on 05/17/2013 11:52:10 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: autumnraine
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And who can forget 1988 GOP presidential primary candidate Pat "Korean War Combat Veteran" Robertson ???



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25 posted on 05/17/2013 11:56:10 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Piss upon Obama, and his False Prophet Mohammed)
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To: left that other site
I agree. I heard Pat give this response. He meant that the wife should realize that it IS possible to forgive infidelity, but he followed it up by saying she is not obligated to stay with her husband if his conduct continues (the Pauline principle).
26 posted on 05/17/2013 11:56:25 AM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: markomalley; All
“We have gone to counseling, but I just can’t seem to forgive, nor can I trust. How do you let go of the anger? How do you trust again?

She asked a specific question.

He answered a specific question.

You're all being politically correct control freaks.

27 posted on 05/17/2013 12:18:31 PM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: left that other site

“I probably would have said, “Leave the jerk”, but would that have been the best answer for a Christian?”

Divorce is permitted, not required, in the case of adultery. Biblical law.


28 posted on 05/17/2013 12:58:17 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: markomalley

Pat’s 83 now, maybe it’s past time for his son Gordon to take over full time. Before Fox News, the 700 Club did some good reporting on things the mainstream media wouldn’t touch. Like Christians being persecuted in public schools and the consequences of abortion like Post-Abortion Syndrome and abortion’s connection to breast cancer.


29 posted on 05/17/2013 1:35:55 PM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: left that other site

Why didn’t he offer her any real advice on how to let go of her anger and to forgive? I would have expected him to say something about prayer, and turning to the Lord for help in putting it behind her.

Instead Robertson offers up iananities such as, “Is he handsome?” LOL, seriously!? “Does he provide for you?” Well, maybe so, but he broke his vows and she can’t turn the hurt off like a faucet. Also, he tarnishes faithful Christian men when he implies that men just wander—get used to it-—and bear no responsibility for doing so.

Look, I’m the last person you’d accuse of being a man-basher. I happen to agree that women should try to keep themselves attractive for their husbands, but it goes BOTH ways. Men don’t get a free pass when they develop beer bellies and sit around scratching themselves.

The woman contacted Pat for help, and all he gave her was stupidity.


30 posted on 05/17/2013 3:30:25 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I agree that his advice was inane.

You have the right advice about forgiveness. That is what a wise Christian pastor would say.

The tragedy is that, more often than not, I have experienced very poor, ill-informed, and un-spiritual “counseling” from many persons in “ministry”, of many denominations.


31 posted on 05/17/2013 6:45:14 PM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: Persevero

Indeed.

Repentence, forgiveness, and staying together, are ALWAYS the better choice.


32 posted on 05/17/2013 6:46:42 PM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: srmorton

Well, that DOES put a different spin on it. The way it was “reported” doesn’t jibe with what YOU, an eyewitness, say about it.

Thank you for that clarification.


33 posted on 05/17/2013 6:48:40 PM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: markomalley
This woman needs this weekend.

Beginning Experience, a peer facilitated weekend for those who are grieving the loss of a loved one

34 posted on 05/17/2013 6:56:23 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: CatherineofAragon
Why didn’t he offer her any real advice on how to let go of her anger and to forgive? I would have expected him to say something about prayer, and turning to the Lord for help in putting it behind her.

The woman contacted Pat for help, and all he gave her was stupidity.

Agreed. While I think there is a good point to be made about not hanging on to the anger and continually obsessing over it, especially if it happened many years ago, if it hasn’t been repeated and he’s asked for his wife’s forgiveness, which BTW was not evident in the woman’s question - she didn’t indicate how long ago this infidelity took place or how many times it happened or for how long or with whom and he never addressed that. But instead of praying for her or with her, offering her some sound advice, live alone any Biblical examples to follow on how to forgive as I would expect a minister to do, what he basically said is “Well, he’s a man OK, get over it, just stop thinking about it, forget about the stripper in the motel room, just be happy and focus on the fact that he’s a good provider, that you have a home, food to eat, clothes to wear, he treats your kids nice, goes to their sporting events, that he’s handsome because you wouldn’t have married an unattractive man or someone who wasn’t a good provider, and you know, men like your husband “tend to wander” because if they see attractive and sexy women in magazines or on TV they can’t be blamed for not keeping it in their pants and out of stripper’s vajajas and it’s probably your fault too that he does, because you’ve just not been “wonderful” enough, reach out and touch him, just touch him, touch his face, hold his hand”, although I would guess the “stripper”, assuming it even was a stripper, was touching more than his face and holding something other than is hand. Perhaps she could install a stripper pole in the bedroom if she really wanted to be a good wife and for him to not have sex with strippers. (eye roll). And again, where did the woman’s question say anything about strippers…perhaps it is Pat who has a particular fascination with strippers?

I watched the whole video. At the beginning after his female co-host read the question, Pat asked her what she thought and she gave a reasoned response about the difficulty of forgiveness especially when it comes to a spouse (cheating) because that is one of the most “ultimate betrayals” and that is true. And then Pat says, “Here’s the secret” and she says “OK” and then she turns her head away and downward in seeming embarrassment of what idiocy she knows Pat is about to say.

I also have to wonder if Pat would have given the exact same advice to a man if he was having difficulty forgiving his wife for cheating. Would Pat have told him to focus on what a good cook and housekeeper she is, how well she takes care of the kids, how attractive she is, would he have told him that women tend to wander what with all those sexy men in magazines and on TV?

Keep in mind that Pat also said it was OK for a man to divorce his wife because she had Alzheimer’s and suggested to a teenager who was concerned about his parent’s marriage, that men drink because their wives are ugly (and the kid’s question had nothing to do with drinking BTW) and that a man with an “unruly” wife should move to Saudi Arabia where it’s OK for him to beat her and that people should not adopt orphans from other countries because they might be brain damaged.

I support his right to say whatever is on his mind but I also have the right to say that whatever thought crosses his mind is probably dying of loneliness.

35 posted on 05/17/2013 8:18:21 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: donna
I hear you. In fact, I wouldn't have an issue with what he said if he didn't seem to focus on the fact that he was a "MAN".

How about saying,"He is HUMAN and therefore sins, etc, etc". But no, he is a MAN...as if he gets special understanding for acting upon this particular sin.

Blech.

36 posted on 05/18/2013 3:52:22 AM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv
“Males have a tendency to wander a little bit, and what you want to do it make the home so wonderful that he doesn’t want to wander,” he said.

Oh now *that* is special. Tendency to wander "a little bit"?

Males do this sort of thing, so get over it maam. Oh and by the way, if you had made your home wonderful, he wouldn't have done it.

I take my previous post back. What he said is disgusting.

37 posted on 05/18/2013 3:56:07 AM PDT by piusv
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To: markomalley

..is Robertson saying that the Sixth Commandment doesn’t apply if the husband is good looking?


He is not saying that, how ever if a man is a provider and is handsome you can bet he is wanted by other women.

And that makes it rough especially if the man has a wife who has an attitude that hes mine now so i don,t have to do anything.

The only thing Robertson is doing is telling it like it is, all preachers do not lie just to be in good grace with people with their heads in the sand.

A woman or man either one will do anything to get the one they are after and as soon as they get them all bets are off.

Men and women both go astray, that is why forgiveness is essential.

If the only reason to marry some one is because you think they will not stray, that would be the marriage made in hell.


38 posted on 05/18/2013 7:34:07 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: ravenwolf

Thank you for actually answering my question.


39 posted on 05/18/2013 8:15:18 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Thank you for actually answering my question.


I have a video which is about Islam, all kinds of pictures and audio about how they are spreading hate mostly against America.

One of the Islam speakers said very plainly ( we must get some one in Washington, or the white house, i am not sure which it was, but i think i got the tape awhile before Obama got elected.

I will see if i can find the tape and put the name of it on the thread.


40 posted on 05/18/2013 8:54:55 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: markomalley
Pat makes sense, but all the fat, "horrible looking wives" out there aren't going to like it! LOL!
41 posted on 05/18/2013 9:12:30 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: piusv

You expect Christians to be Feminists?


42 posted on 05/18/2013 10:39:12 AM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: ravenwolf; markomalley
..is Robertson saying that the Sixth Commandment doesn’t apply if the husband is good looking?

He is not saying that, how ever if a man is a provider and is handsome you can bet he is wanted by other women.

True, he didn’t say that in those exact words but he basically told her to just forget about it, to just focus on the good stuff and "He cheated on you. Well, he's a man. OK.” There was nothing about how to ask God to help her forgive, in fact he even told her to stop praying about it because “You're focusing on the thing that makes you mad. Stop that!" He also said nothing about the man needing to pray and ask God for forgiveness or asking his wife for her forgiveness. I get that obsessing over it and holding on to the hurt and anger is not constructive, that she should, if he’s truly repentant and he isn’t cheating anymore, focus on the man he is today and not the man he was, but when a spouse has cheated on, you just don’t suddenly decide to look on the bright side of life, pretend like it never happened and it all becomes better overnight.

And so unattractive men who are not so great providers don’t cheat too? And if they do, are they to be held more to blame than a man who is a “provider and is handsome” because it’s all those women who are throwing themselves at him who are really to blame? He can’t keep it in his pants and keep it out of other women because he’s just too damned good lookin’ and weak when tempted by another woman? That is the same sort of attitude found in Islam – men can’t control themselves or their sexual urges when in the company of women unless the women are covered head to toe in a big heavy burlap sack. If a man commits adultery or rapes a woman, it’s always the woman’s fault - he gets or might get a few lashes but she get’s stoned to death.

And that makes it rough especially if the man has a wife who has an attitude that hes mine now so i don,t have to do anything.

So if a woman naturally ages, she gains some weight after having several kids, her breasts are sagging a bit, her hair isn’t so soft and silken anymore, maybe it’s turning grey, she gets some few wrinkles, cankels, maybe she gets cancer or has a disfiguring accident or gets Alzheimers (and Pat not long ago said it was OK for a man to divorce his wife because she had Alzheimers and didn’t recognize him anymore, suggesting that she was just as good as dead, wasn’t a real person anymore so it was OK to divorce her and move on with his life and that it was OK to take up with another woman) she has an “attitude” for thinking and expecting that her husband should remain faithful to her, “for better or worse and forsaking all others”? I am not saying that a wife shouldn’t try to keep the spark alive in her marriage or let herself go to “heck”, but what if she remains fit and trim and attractive and he goes bald and get’s a big ole pot belly and double chin and doesn’t shave or bathe as often as he used to, would rather sit on the couch and watch TV than talk to his wife or romance her in the bedroom? Doesn’t he have the same sort of responsibility as she does in the marriage? Would it be excusable or understandable for her to cheat if her husband let himself go and other men still found her attractive?

The only thing Robertson is doing is telling it like it is, all preachers do not lie just to be in good grace with people with their heads in the sand.

Oh please! The woman asked for advice on how to forgive and trust again and he flippantly tells her to just forget about it because he’s a man and men tend to wander. That’s perhaps telling like it is in some cases but then I would expect a man of God and someone who claims to be a conservative to say, "that’s not how it should be or needs to be". And Robertson puts no responsibly on the man BTW, he excuses his behavior and he puts a lot of the blame and all the responsibly to forgive and forget on her.

A woman or man either one will do anything to get the one they are after and as soon as they get them all bets are off.

M’kay. I don’t even know what that is supposed to mean.

Men and women both go astray, that is why forgiveness is essential.

Forgiveness and trust is essential but that needs to be earned. And she said she wanted to forgive and trust again but admitted she was finding it difficult. Of course it’s difficult, there is probably nothing more difficult than dealing with an infidelity, your spouse is supposed to be the most important and trusted person in your life, but Robertson’s flippant and caveman worthy response did nothing to help her with that. Telling her to just forget about it and focus on how handsome he is and what a good provider he is, is not the same as learning how to forgiving and learning how to trust again. And that is a too way street by the way. The woman said something about her and her husband being in counseling so one could infer that they are both trying to make the marriage work, but we don’t know how many times he cheated, with how many women, how long ago, for how long and with whom and if it was still going on or had only recently stopped or if the husband was really repentant and working hard to regain her trust. Did her husband take full responsibility or like Pat, did he in counseling blame his wife for not being “wonderful” enough to keep him from having sex with a stripper (and I’m still puzzled why Robertson came up with that since the letter made no mention of strippers). Not that it would matter, cheating is cheating, but then again if he cheated with a woman at work, a woman from their church, a neighbor, I could see how that might be even more difficult for the wife to forgive and forget and trust again. If he had sex one time with a stripper, he could easily avoid that temptation in the future by just staying away from strip clubs but if he cheated with a woman in their circle, that’s more difficult. How does she know it won’t happen again unless he proves and demonstrates that it won’t? Doesn’t he bare some responsibility to earn her trust?

If the only reason to marry some one is because you think they will not stray, that would be the marriage made in hell.

What an asinine thing to say. So standing together and taking the vows of marriage before God, your priest, pastor, minister or your rabbi or even a JOP, in front of your family and friends and having an expectation that those vows actually mean something, like the part that says “forsaking all others”; that should be accompanied with a big wink and a nudge, otherwise it’s a marriage made in hell? So when a couple is taking those solemn vows, they should be thinking, “it is inevitable that one day one or both of us are going to cheat, but it’s no big deal and I’ll just look the other way and not let that upset me if I’m otherwise comfortable, living in a nice house with food on the table and have nice clothes to wear and he shows up for our kids softball games.”

Read what he actually said and watch the video here and tell me why it would not be better for Pat to retire and keep his mouth shut. Defend him all you want but he is an embarrassment and cannon fodder for liberals.

Pat Robertson Cheating Advice

43 posted on 05/18/2013 10:43:03 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

True, he didn’t say that in those exact words


exactly.

And so unattractive men who are not so great providers don’t cheat too? And if they do, are they to be held more to blame than a man who is a “provider and is handsome”


I was talking about temptation being put in some ones path, you put the blame where you want.

So if a woman naturally ages,


I said attitude.
And that makes it rough especially if the man has a wife who has an attitude that hes mine now so i don,t have to do anything.

Oh please! The woman asked for advice on how to forgive and trust again


If the woman really believes in what Jesus said she would not have to be told, if some one is unforgiving how are they to be forgiven for their sins?

M’kay. I don’t even know what that is supposed to mean.


That means they may act like a saint until after the marriage and then start acting like the bastards or bitches they are.

Forgiveness and trust is essential but that needs to be earned.


I doubt if i can go to this place called heaven unless i am forgiven and there is no way i can earn it.

Also our trust and faith should be in God, because regardless of how hard we try we will let each other down.

If the only reason to marry some one is because you think they will not stray, that would be the marriage made in hell.


What an asinine thing to say. So standing together and taking the vows of marriage before God, your priest, pastor, minister or your rabbi or even a JOP, in front of your family and friends and having an expectation that those vows actually mean something, like the part that says “forsaking all others”; that should be accompanied with a big wink and a nudge, otherwise it’s a marriage made in hell? So when a couple is taking those solemn vows, they should be thinking, “it is inevitable that one day one or both of us are going to cheat, but it’s no big deal and I’ll just look the other way and not let that upset me if I’m otherwise comfortable, living in a nice house with food on the table and have nice clothes to wear and he shows up for our kids softball games.”

Gee, where in the world did you come up with that kind of an interpretation? seems to be many times more reading between the line than just reading what is written.

Defend him all you want but he is an embarrassment and cannon fodder for liberals.


I doubt if i need to defend him, it is just my nature to defend those who are getting persecuted just because they don,t lie about human nature to appease women and the religious culture.

There are many men who would not step out on their wives, there are also many who will, there is nothing Pat Robertson can do about it.


44 posted on 05/18/2013 11:37:07 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: MD Expat in PA

LOL

I haven’t watched The 700 Club in a good while, but I’ve seen that embarrassed look from the co-host, Teri Meeuwsen, before. I’d love to know what she think of Pat’s tangents.

I was unaware of his remark about ugly women causing their husbands to drink (why’d they marry the women in the first place?). I’d also not heard the one about the orphans, nor about moving to Saudi Arabia for wifebeating.

I’m wondering if the donations we make to The 700 Club might be better off going to some other Christian charity.


45 posted on 05/18/2013 5:40:43 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: markomalley

It’s interesting that ABC is finally taking an interest in Pat Robertson again.


46 posted on 05/19/2013 8:30:07 PM PDT by Mmmike
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To: skeeter; Lakeshark; Mmmike

Several other sources have reported this too, not just ABC.


47 posted on 05/21/2013 6:43:52 PM PDT by EveningStar ("What color is the sky in your world?" -- Frasier Crane)
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To: EveningStar
Dearest ES, you know the only reason this is news is because it's supposed to embarrass Christians. There are worse and more stupid things said daily by "progressive" leaders that never go reported by anyone.

It's all about the narrative. I am presuming even you know about narrative shaping by the MSM.

48 posted on 05/22/2013 5:17:22 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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