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To: SunkenCiv

This is an eye-opener. I thought the last Karaites disappeared centuries ago. The Khazars were Karaites, for instance.


31 posted on 05/21/2013 7:22:07 PM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: Berosus

Very unlikely Khazars were Karaites, if the story of their conversion is even true. More likely is that, as the Khazars disappeared, some remnant of them became Karaites rather than leave Judaism completely.


32 posted on 05/21/2013 8:01:12 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Berosus

Before I begin this one, let me apologize in advance if it does not format properly.

The Khazars were NOT Karaites. Here’s another one of those little “mysteries” I can help out on.

In the 8th century, as a result of the influx and influence of the Jews migrating throughout the region, the nation of Khazar, much of its royalty and aristrocracy converted to Judaism.

The conversion was performed by Rabbi Yitzak HaSangari. The result was a more tolerant and harmonious society. The Jews, who were educated in many other nations, brought with them the culture, arts, and technologies of the civilization/nations they fled from.. The direct result was that the Khazars became an Asian steppe tribal society that successfully made the transition to an urbanite society.

Eventually, the Khazars and the Balkins were conquered by Sviatoslav of Kiev. However, most of the families of the original migrating Jews remained in the region. World Wars 1 & 2, along with the rebirth of the State of Israel, led to mass Jewish immigration out of the region.

Many people, generally Anti-Semites, try to state that these people were not of Jewish blood. But this is incorrect. Genetic testing shows that they are indeed, without question of the same Jewish people who were still living in the Middle East and other areas. So, any discussion of Ashkenazi Jews not being “original” Jews is simply moot.

The Karaites were not part of the Khazars. Most of them remained in the Middle East. Many lived in Egypt.


35 posted on 05/21/2013 9:02:17 PM PDT by Never A Dull Moment
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To: Berosus; SunkenCiv; Never A Dull Moment; jjotto
So did I, but we have some informed posters pointing out details (see above from NADM etc) -- there are 2 "types" of Karaites (and I found that out in the past day): the religious group and then Turkic peoples from what was the Ukraine who use the term Karaite. They may be descendents of Khazars.

The Khazars were definitely originally followers of Tengriism/shamanism and their realm was multi-religious. The elite may have converted or not, things are still uncertain

36 posted on 05/21/2013 11:28:21 PM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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