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The pope and the devil: Francis' obsession with Satan leads to ... (barf)
AP ^ | 5-21-2013

Posted on 05/21/2013 6:30:35 AM PDT by markomalley

Is Pope Francis an exorcist?

The question has been swirling ever since Francis laid his hands Sunday on the head of a young man after celebrating Mass in St. Peter's Square. The young man heaved deeply a half-dozen times, convulsed and shook, and then slumped in his wheelchair as Francis prayed over him.

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Fueling the speculation is Francis' obsession with the devil, a frequent subject of his homilies.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


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Full title: " The pope and the devil: Francis' obsession with Satan leads to suspicion he performed exorcism"

Love the title from the scoffing class.

1 posted on 05/21/2013 6:30:35 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Pope Francis - America needs exorcism!

2 posted on 05/21/2013 6:34:05 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Pray THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA will be delivered from the evil unGODly forces)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

My thoughts exactly. Satan is a real individual motivated by pure malignant evil. We are lucky that we are facing one of his lesser followers today - one who is also motivated by pure malignant evil, but much less intelligent and energetic than the real thing.


3 posted on 05/21/2013 6:41:56 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: markomalley

LOL

Apparently this stupid reporter doesn’t understand that we are at war with the devil and his minions. If Pope Francis helped this person then God bless him for doing his job. The battle is on.


4 posted on 05/21/2013 6:42:11 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: markomalley
I grew up in a Catholic family but would now be identified (as much as I dislike the negative connotations appurtenant to it) as a ‘born-again Christian’.

Pope Francis is, IMHO, spot on with his focusing on Satan and his effects on humanity. He recognizes the source of many of the world's problems. Not that all evils come from Satan or his minions, but many of them certainly do.

I have been impressed from the beginning with his focus on the servant nature of Jesus and our responsibility to care for the poor among us.

5 posted on 05/21/2013 6:43:54 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (Liars use facts when the truth doesn't suit their purposes.)
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To: Pollster1
"La plus belle des ruses du diable est de vous persuader qu'il n'existe pas."

Charles Baudelaire

6 posted on 05/21/2013 6:56:28 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: markomalley

I focused on the same thing. The AP seems amused that the Pope is “obsessed with Satan.” In their world, where only the ignorant and unenlightened believe in the Devil, the Pope should be more focused on advocating amnesty and World Socialism.


7 posted on 05/21/2013 6:59:25 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: wideawake

When posting in a non-English language - unless the phrase is very well, e.g. “adios” - include an English translation.


8 posted on 05/21/2013 7:00:33 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: wideawake

That is the only area in which Obama works against Satan - no sane person can look at Obama’s works and doubt the existence of the Father of All Lies.


9 posted on 05/21/2013 7:00:43 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: markomalley
Pastors exorcise demons all the time. It is a spiritual gift.
10 posted on 05/21/2013 7:14:21 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever ((Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!))
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To: Pollster1

Yet folks deny that the enemy is for real.


11 posted on 05/21/2013 7:19:13 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: markomalley

Hell and the devil fell out of favor after WWII, because of the liberal embrace of religious ecumenism, mirroring the European sentiment that “differences between peoples result in war”, so that these differences should be erased.

Yes, they got both of those things wrong.

Some of the more repugnant outgrowths included moral relativism, socialist-religious liberation theology, and the Judeo-Christian adoption of Asiatic and even pagan religious theories, along with the dismissal of their most important theological concepts.

Thus the idea of Hell and the devil, as a perpetual symbol of evil and the enemy of God, Heaven and mankind, was a barrier to creating a more generic world. There could be no evil or enemies.

Oddly enough, a comic in The New Yorker said it best, with an ornate picture of two great open doors at the Vatican, with a book carrying demon walking through, as two Cardinals looked on disapprovingly, with one commenting, “I think this ecumenism has gone too far.”


12 posted on 05/21/2013 7:22:23 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: wideawake

“The Devil’s best trick is to persuade you that he doesn’t exist.” Or something like that.


13 posted on 05/21/2013 7:23:07 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: wideawake

wide!!

you did so well that you even got a wrist slap from the bureaucrats!

The greatest trick the Moderators ever pulled was convincing the us that they don’t exist.


14 posted on 05/21/2013 7:23:09 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (we're the Beatniks now)
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To: markomalley

People don’t realize that Jesus talks about hell more in the Bible than he talks about heaven.

Count them, my priest did one day when he was bored on a flight.

hell, Ghenna, Sheol, Hades, netherworld, underworld, etc. lots of names for hell.


15 posted on 05/21/2013 7:26:04 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

For what it’s worth:

You are still a Catholic; the marks of Baptism and Confirmation will never go away. They are permanent. You will be identified as a Catholic at the moment of your death.

Please find a priest and sit down and talk with him. Get your questions answered.

We welcome you back at anytime.


16 posted on 05/21/2013 7:28:24 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity
There may be someone's story very similar to yours on this website.



17 posted on 05/21/2013 7:30:14 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: markomalley

“Francis’ obsession with the devil”

An obsession is a preoccupation that completely takes over a persons thoughts. An obsession is considered a psychological disease as in “obsessive-compulsive disorder.” The implication is that someone who is obsessed is delusional and incapable of rational, intelligent thought or action because he is so fixated on the object of this obsession.

Pope Francis is right to be concerned about evil in the world. The attacks on Pope Francis and the dishonest accusation that he has an “obsession with the devil” indicates that the author either is either unable to understand the meaning of words and use them correctly or that the author is evil.


18 posted on 05/21/2013 7:31:21 AM PDT by detective
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To: Pollster1
My owners manual tells me that we do battle against wickedness in the “spiritual realm”. But good news...Christ Jesus has done it ALL. We have the authority as children of the MOST HIGH to take charge over the devil and his minions.

Eph6
Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might.
Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day

19 posted on 05/21/2013 7:34:07 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

“....our responsibility to care for the poor among us.”

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We are already doing it. Where do you think much of our tax dollars go?

Do some volunteer work in an American social ministry and observe many of our “poor” driving SUVs, being overweight, living in air-conditioned apartments, watching cable TV, talking over cell phones, having kids from several different fathers and schedule their lives so as to visit various different social ministries and having no intention to look for work.

Our “poor” are not all parasites, but many are.


20 posted on 05/21/2013 7:51:16 AM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Biggirl

That is exactly what the enemy wants you to think — that he is not real.

Satan is the inventor of stealth technology.


21 posted on 05/21/2013 7:57:12 AM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Religion Moderator; wideawake

The quotation says that one of the devil’s best tricks is to convince us that he does not exist.


22 posted on 05/21/2013 8:07:38 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Salvation
For what it’s worth:

It's not worth anything...

You are still a Catholic; the marks of Baptism and Confirmation will never go away. They are permanent. You will be identified as a Catholic at the moment of your death.

Your religion lied to you...There will be no Catholics in heaven...Only born again Christians...

23 posted on 05/21/2013 8:09:53 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: markomalley

The only person Pope Francis is “obsessed with” is Jesus Christ and His Saving Power. Since Satan is the enemy of God and of His son, Jesus, it stands to reason that PF would also be antagonistic to Satan and his legions of followers.

This may be too difficut a concept for non-believers to appreciate or understand.


24 posted on 05/21/2013 8:10:38 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Iscool

You’re still lying to yourself. Score one for the prince of darkness.


25 posted on 05/21/2013 8:17:11 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: 353FMG

I would say that the Pope isn’t (as I wasn’t) referring to the entitlement-class people who, largely through long-term government policies, have become lazy and complacent.

Interestingly, many of the poor in other parts of the world are also that way because of government interference. Look at sub-Saharan Africa, where despotic rulers steal food provided by relief agencies for little other purpose than to maintain control over their starving populace.

Shame on them (and us) all.


26 posted on 05/21/2013 8:17:52 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (Liars use facts when the truth doesn't suit their purposes.)
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To: markomalley

satan fears God and thus fears the pope calling on God, enough to flee!

And that scares the AP. Why?

Seeing this, will Obama ever meet the pope?


27 posted on 05/21/2013 8:19:46 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: Religion Moderator
"La plus belle des ruses du diable est de vous persuader qu'il n'existe pas."

Translation: "Never wear anything that panics the cat."

28 posted on 05/21/2013 9:08:02 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity
I have been impressed from the beginning with his focus on the servant nature of Jesus and our responsibility to care for the poor among us.

"Everybody wants to save the world but nobody wants to help mom with the dishes."
P. J. O'Rourke

29 posted on 05/21/2013 9:10:47 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: markomalley; don-o; Mount Athos; Buckeye McFrog; A.A. Cunningham
AMAZING... the Sun (UK) headlined this that the Pope is "embroiled in scandal" for performing this "strange ritual" on a "fan." http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4936655/pope-francis-caught-on-video-performing-strange-ritual-on-fan.html#ixzz2TwDcEjcS

If you look at the video you can see that Pope Francis places his hands on the boy's head and prays inaudibly, and the boy gasps and exhales hard about 4 times. The whole thing takes about 5 seconds. That's it. Then Francis goes on greeting other people in the crowd.

You're right, Mt. Athos, nothing bizarre about it: every Baptism in fact includes an exorcism.

Thank God for the "normal Christianity" of Pope Francis.

Somebody explain the "strangeness" of AP, news.yahoo, and the Sun.

30 posted on 05/21/2013 9:57:32 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can obseve a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

wow how did my original comment get deleted.

Anyway I just said every baptism is an exorcism, don’t understand why people say it is rare or unusual


31 posted on 05/21/2013 10:08:12 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity
Excellent comment, QnQ. I hope you will post a lot more, because I detect an uncommon %-age of common sense.

Check out this one, you'll like it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3022118/posts

32 posted on 05/21/2013 10:10:26 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can obseve a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Iscool
#32
33 posted on 05/21/2013 10:11:54 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can obseve a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

I can’t believe I got admonished for assuming that FReepers would be able to pass high school French.


34 posted on 05/21/2013 10:17:09 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Jeff Chandler
Ha! Made me laugh, you cat, you.


35 posted on 05/21/2013 10:17:54 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can obseve a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Borges

I should have cc’d you to post 34.


36 posted on 05/21/2013 10:19:04 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: onyx
I loved your pic of the little boy that tells Satan to back off because he belongs to Jesus --- and then it disappeared! :o(

Can you tell me where to find it?

37 posted on 05/21/2013 10:24:29 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can obseve a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Iscool
There will be no Catholics in heaven...Only born again Christians...

...which of course will include quite a few Catholics...
38 posted on 05/21/2013 10:39:48 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

i do hope it is posted. I would love to see it :)


39 posted on 05/21/2013 12:26:11 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: A.A. Cunningham
You’re still lying to yourself. Score one for the prince of darkness.

Sorry pal, I have the words of God...And God never speaks of a Catholic, baptized or otherwise...

Heaven is for born again Christians...

Your religion invented itself...There are no Catholics in the scriptures...And there are no examples of Catholics in the scriptures except in the very negative sense...

40 posted on 05/21/2013 12:31:49 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: wideawake
I can’t believe I got admonished for assuming that FReepers would be able to pass high school French.

What, did you go to a one room high school??? They only taught French??? My school offered a number of languages and French was at the bottom of the list...

41 posted on 05/21/2013 12:36:17 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Genoa
...which of course will include quite a few Catholics...

There's no such thing as Catholics...Only Christian and heathen...And I do suspect there are some Christians who attend the Catholic religion even tho I have yet to meet one who has a testimony of trusting Jesus for his/her salvation...

42 posted on 05/21/2013 12:39:42 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
"And I do suspect there are some Christians who attend the Catholic religion even tho I have yet to meet one who has a testimony of trusting Jesus for his/her salvation... "

And THAT is exactly why God did not put you in charge of judgment.....

May peace and the Holy Spirit come upon you.

43 posted on 05/21/2013 12:44:09 PM PDT by Natural Law (Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, dona nobis pacem.)
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To: Natural Law

The hubris is breathtaking.

Can you imagine judging who is saved? I’d hate to come into His Presence telling Him I’ve usurped His right.

Pantocrator, I’m not.


44 posted on 05/21/2013 12:48:56 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: campaignPete R-CT

The greatest trick the Moderators ever pulled was convincing the us that they don’t exist.
_____________

Rofl!


45 posted on 05/21/2013 12:49:20 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (God Bless America)
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To: markomalley

If you have the stomach for it, read some of the tweets to the Pope on Twitter. Then you might appreciate his “fixation” with Old Nick.


46 posted on 05/21/2013 12:52:48 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: GOP Poet; onyx
Let's see if this works: Yes!


47 posted on 05/21/2013 12:53:02 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Tell the truth and shame the Devil.)
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To: Iscool; Tax-chick; Salvation

48 posted on 05/21/2013 12:55:54 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Tell the truth and shame the Devil.)
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To: Natural Law
And THAT is exactly why God did not put you in charge of judgment.....

Well God did tell me to 'prove all things' and 'test the spirits'...

49 posted on 05/21/2013 1:00:21 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: OpusatFR
Can you imagine judging who is saved?

I can't imagine NOT judging who is saved...I can't save or unsave anyone but we are to separate ourselves from those who are not saved...

Why don't you pick up a bible sometime...

50 posted on 05/21/2013 1:07:48 PM PDT by Iscool
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