Skip to comments.Fatima, Freemasonry, Vatican II and 1960
Posted on 05/22/2013 12:57:42 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
Freemasonry, Vatican II and 1960
By John Salza
Consecration Now Conference
Rome, May 13, 2011
There is a body of clear and compelling testimony from the likes of Cardinal Pacelli (future Pope Pius XII), Fr. Fuentes, Fr. Alonso, Fr. Schweigl ,Cardinal Oddi, Cardinal Ciappi, Fr. Malachi Martin, and even Cardinal Ratzinger (the future pope Benedict XVI) that the Third Secret of Fatima, not yet revealed by the Vatican, predicts a spiritual crisis in the bosom of the Church. In this presentation, I am going to elaborate on this theme, by demonstrating that this crisis is nothing less than a world - wide apostasy from the Catholic Faith fueled by the principles of Freemasonry, which would penetrate the Church using an ecumenical council, corrupt the hierarchy, and threaten the gravest spiritual and material chastisements in world history. Note well that the Third Secret does not just announce the crisis; it identifies the causes of the crisis and the primary cause of the crisis is the doctrinal compromises of the hijackers of Vatican II who sought to give the Church a new orientation rather than unequivocally affirming what she is the Mystical Body of Christ...
PDF text of conference presentation
Some people have to have somebody to hate/blame.
Ever Read The Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita?
Never heard of it; don't know what it is.
"Our ultimate end is that of Voltaire and of the French Revolution - the final destruction of Catholicism, and even of the Christian idea."
The Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita
The Alta Vendita was the highest lodge of the Carbonari and the instruction was promulgated in the early 19th century.
People forget that Masonry declared war on the Church centuries ago and has acted on it numerous times in the past. But us Catholics are just being “hateful” when we point out the dangers of Freemasonry.
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Stay out of the kitchen.
Thanks for letting me know where you, a "hardline traditionalist," stand on the topic.
I guess that's why you're still here. Whenever a Catholic comes here who does defend the inerrancy of the Written Word of G-d your co-religionists waste no time in getting him banned.
So... Y’all sedevacantists finally coming out of the closet?
Stay out of the kitchen.
Says the guy who believes the Masons are plotting to rule the world but who can't bring himself to defend the canonized Word of G-d. Are you one of those people who wants the return of the Middle Ages, only with evolution? Hey, maybe creationism is a Masonic plot!
I don't have any use for the Masons, but any "religion" blasphemous to call into question the very words of G-d Himself deserves to be destroyed.
Discuss the issues all you want but do not make it personal.
You obviously don’t understand the term if you know my posting history here yet accuse me of that. Nonetheless I do believe there is a faction in the Vatican that has sought to downplay and silence the message of Fatima since Vatican II and this presentation does as good a job at analyzing that fact as anything I’ve seen.
I understand the term well enough to know the tropes when I read or hear them. If you’re not, you’re flirting with it and I suspect know more than a few.
You know far less than that for which you give yourself credit. (Heck, I’ve written for the Vatican paper L’Osservatore Romano. I can assure you that under its modern editors no sedevacantists or crypto sedevacantists get published there.)
I suspect you’re confusing sedevacantists with Lefevrists. I attend a diocesan ordinary form (Novus Ordo) mass daily and the diocesan extraordinary form (Traditional Latin) mass most Sundays. Sedes and SSPXers wouldn’t be caught dead at either ;-)
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