Skip to comments.Pope Francis says atheists can do good and go to heaven too!
Posted on 05/24/2013 2:25:17 AM PDT by DaveMSmith
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Psalm 14:1, “The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.”
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Seems clear enough.
“Those people must still do good”
Well, nice to know you can work your way to heaven.
Witness The Romans Road to Salvation and The three great parables of Mathew 13.
I’m shocked the Pope would say this.
Did you read his sermon? His sermon is pretty clear - he talks about how Christ says, “whatsoever you did for the least of those - you also did for me.”
It’s not about doing good for the sake of doing good - but about how serving your brothers and sisters serves Christ. Works not in absence of faith but works in affirmation of faith.
where in Mark is he referencing?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
There is no god. And that was out loud...
Yes, it is true. We are saved by God’s grace. Whether or not one explicitly knows that is not the issue. It is by the sacrifice of the Son that we are saved. God didn’t have to do that, but He did. You might thumb your bible for the verse about “doing the WILL of the Father.” God does not just expect you to sit around on your butt. If an atheist consistently does the WILL OF THE FATHER then he too can be saved. We must pray for those who manage, by natural law, to develop an ethos of helping people, and avoiding evil. The atheist, has a harder time to be sure, but don’t assume all are going to hell.
Yeah, the responses on this thread should be pretty interesting. The Catholics on FR are pretty intent on keeping Christ and heaven to themselves.
BTW, I am a Catholic.
I concur that all are redeemed by the Cross, but not that all have been saved.
Salvation occurs upon forgiveness and forgiveness occurs upon faith in His work on the Cross.
I still am looking for the passage in Mark to which he references his statement.
Would this mean non-Christians ca go to heaven?
No. It means the Pope is in error.
What of the Good Samaritan? (Luke 10:28-38) ... “Go and do likewise.” - Jesus didn’t seem to judge based on belief.
The Pope is sounding more like Wesley than Augustine, not that Wesley would condone disbelief, but there seems to be an abundance of choice and personal responsibility in the Pope’s statements.
I’ll start out by saying that Christian religious figures are so often misquoted and represented that I wouldn’t trust this articles claims without checking.
But I want to ask what is good to an Atheist? Separated from any traditional value system or faith, “good” can mean all sorts of things.
Mao, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot all thought they were doing “good” according to their worldview.
So for a person to tell an Atheist “just do good”, I’m worried what their idea of good will be.
Isn’t that where totalitarian dystopias come from?
Beats me. I always thought that the Pope was man’s direct line to Jesus.
I waited for a Catholic source before posting. This is all over the internet.
Pope Francis is sounding more like Jesus everyday.