"Eternal LIFE is not salvation?"
Revelation 14:11 "And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name."
posted on 05/24/2013 4:58:12 AM PDT
("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
I think the opposite of eternal life is death or eternal damnation. Your quote does not state 'life' for those tormented.
Actually, it's funny you quote that verse - Swedenborg says it is the fate of those who are of faith divorced from charity that falsify the Word.
posted on 05/24/2013 5:09:48 AM PDT
(Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
To: mitch5501; DaveMSmith; Campion; cuban leaf; cashless; Jemian; william clark; Vendome
Note that DaveMSmith is part of Swedenborgianism and which was countered extensively in such threads as here
(and scroll up both pages) .
posted on 05/24/2013 7:01:31 AM PDT
(Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
Revelation 14:11 “And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.”
Technically, I believe that is a pretty small subset of the non-believers. Also, the word interpretted as “for ever and ever” does not necessarily mean what most people think when they read the phrase “for ever and ever”.
If your auto manual said you should change the oil in your car ever 7,000 miles “for ever and ever”, it would be interpreted to mean “until you no longer have the car”. A lot of the english translations of “forever” in the bible don’t really mean “for time neverending”. In fact, in some cases it was a short time indeed.
posted on 05/24/2013 7:06:41 AM PDT
by cuban leaf
(Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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