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Pope: Open the door to faith
Vatican Radio ^ | May 25, 2013

Posted on 05/25/2013 4:36:13 AM PDT by NYer

(Vatican Radio) Those who approach the Church should find the doors open and not find people who want to control the faith. This is what the Pope said this morning during Mass in the Casa Santa Marta.

The day's Gospel tells us that Jesus rebukes the disciples who seek to remove children that people bring to the Lord to bless. "Jesus embraces them, kisses them, touches them, all of them. It tires Jesus and his disciples "want it to stop”. Jesus is indignant: "Jesus got angry, sometimes." And he says: "Let them come to me, do not hinder them. For the Kingdom of God belongs to such as these." "The faith of the People of God – observes the Pope - is a simple faith, a faith that is perhaps without much theology, but it has an inward theology that is not wrong, because the Spirit is behind it." The Pope mentions Vatican I and Vatican II, where it is said that "the holy people of God ... cannot err in matters of belief" (Lumen Gentium). And to explain this theological formulation he adds: "If you want to know who Mary is go to the theologian and he will tell you exactly who Mary is. But if you want to know how to love Mary go to the People of God who teach it better. " The people of God - continued the Pope - "are always asking for something closer to Jesus, they are sometimes a bit 'insistent in this. But it is the insistence of those who believe ":

"I remember once, coming out of the city of Salta, on the patronal feast, there was a humble lady who asked for a priest's blessing. The priest said, 'All right, but you were at the Mass' and explained the whole theology of blessing in the church. You did well: 'Ah, thank you father, yes father,' said the woman. When the priest had gone, the woman turned to another priest: 'Give me your blessing!'. All these words did not register with her, because she had another necessity: the need to be touched by the Lord. That is the faith that we always look for , this is the faith that brings the Holy Spirit. We must facilitate it, make it grow, help it grow. "

The Pope also mentioned the story of the blind man of Jericho, who was rebuked by the disciples because he cried to the Lord, "Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!"

"The Gospel says that they didn’t want him to shout, they wanted him not to shout but he wanted to shout more, why? Because he had faith in Jesus! The Holy Spirit had put faith in his heart. And they said, 'No, you cannot do this! You don’t shout to the Lord. Protocol does not allow it. And 'the second Person of the Trinity! Look what you do... 'as if they were saying that, right? ".

And think about the attitude of many Christians:

"Think of the good Christians, with good will, we think about the parish secretary, a secretary of the parish ... 'Good evening, good morning, the two of us - boyfriend and girlfriend - we want to get married'. And instead of saying, 'That's great!'. They say, 'Oh, well, have a seat. If you want the Mass, it costs a lot ... '. This, instead of receiving a good welcome- It is a good thing to get married! '- But instead they get this response:' Do you have the certificate of baptism, all right ... '. And they find a closed door. When this Christian and that Christian has the ability to open a door, thanking God for this fact of a new marriage ... We are many times controllers of faith, instead of becoming facilitators of the faith of the people. "

And 'there is always a temptation - said the Pope - "try and take possession of the Lord." And he tells another story:

"Think about a single mother who goes to church, in the parish and to the secretary she says: 'I want my child baptized'. And then this Christian, this Christian says: 'No, you cannot because you're not married!'. But look, this girl who had the courage to carry her pregnancy and not to return her son to the sender, what is it? A closed door! This is not zeal! It is far from the Lord! It does not open doors! And so when we are on this street, have this attitude, we do not do good to people, the people, the People of God, but Jesus instituted the seven sacraments with this attitude and we are establishing the eighth: the sacrament of pastoral customs! ".

"Jesus is indignant when he sees these things" - said the Pope - because those who suffer are "his faithful people, the people that he loves so much"

"We think today of Jesus, who always wants us all to be closer to Him, we think of the Holy People of God, a simple people, who want to get closer to Jesus and we think of so many Christians of goodwill who are wrong and that instead of opening a door they close the door of goodwill ... So we ask the Lord that all those who come to the Church find the doors open, find the doors open, open to meet this love of Jesus. We ask this grace. " Listen to Lydia O'Kane report





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1 posted on 05/25/2013 4:36:13 AM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 05/25/2013 4:36:34 AM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer

Not a Catholic but I love this guy. Not too often one sees a “grass-roots” Pope who will eschew theologians and huge tomes to keep it simple for the true layman.


3 posted on 05/25/2013 4:43:25 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: NYer

Amen. Pope Francis is correct. We Catholics must be more open and friendly.


4 posted on 05/25/2013 5:00:52 AM PDT by mitchell001
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To: NYer
I really admire this Pope. He tells stories like Jesus. I can relate to the unwed mother wanting to baptize her infant son and the marriage thing. It just seems there is a check list and the appreciation of the spiritual nature of these sacraments is lost. (BTW, my first marriage was in the Catholic Church as was my wife's). Rules, rules, rules.

Can I be added to the ping list for these Vatican Radio homilies?

5 posted on 05/25/2013 5:04:16 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: NYer
Open the door to faith
So, asking for baptismal certificates and requiring TWO parents to be married is now deemed "closed door?" Oh, those meeeean Catholics.
Sorry, but actions and choices have consequences.
6 posted on 05/25/2013 5:11:08 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: mitchell001
We Catholics must be more open and friendly.
WTH does that mean ... more TOLERANT ... more INCLUSIVE?
What is it that I do as a Catholic that is "closed and unfriendly?
What would YOU do specifically to be more "open and friendly?"
7 posted on 05/25/2013 5:31:34 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: NYer

This is very good.


8 posted on 05/25/2013 6:22:41 AM PDT by Tax-chick (The Commie Plot Theory of Everything. Give it a try - you'll be surprised how often it makes sense.)
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To: Tax-chick

Yes! This is very good.


9 posted on 05/25/2013 6:26:23 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (God Bless America)
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To: pax_et_bonum

He seems to be trying to jolt church members, including clergy, out of a rut! In one piece I read, he said that the Church today isn’t like the Good Shepherd who left 99 sheep to look for one ... it’s more like we’re carefully “shepherding” one, while 99 are wandering in the wilderness.


10 posted on 05/25/2013 6:34:43 AM PDT by Tax-chick (The Commie Plot Theory of Everything. Give it a try - you'll be surprised how often it makes sense.)
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To: Tax-chick
Uh = huh! Oh man, is that very true.

Plus --- and this is ironic -- you sometimes find the "shepherd" does appeal for a more inclusive attitude --- toward the separated Wolvish Brethren.

11 posted on 05/25/2013 7:00:13 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (asdfgh)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; pax_et_bonum

Good point!

In everything I’ve read, Pope Francis is saying that the Church needs to go out and (viz the parable of the Wedding Feast) drag the people in ... but to give them the full message of Christ, not to leave them in paganism. “Yo, bud! Where’s your wedding garment?”

If I had to summarize, I’d say his message is “Know Christ (personally). Live Christ (radically). Share Christ (boldly).” The order is important. A person can believe “these” correct doctrines and do “those” meritorious acts, but if he doesn’t personally know Christ, he can still be a stumbling block to others.


12 posted on 05/25/2013 7:14:08 AM PDT by Tax-chick (The Commie Plot Theory of Everything. Give it a try - you'll be surprised how often it makes sense.)
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To: Tax-chick

The poper really needs to understand God’s word, rather than posting half-correct “theology”. A real “spiritual leader”, he is not. Holy? Thanks for the evidence that paganism never fell far from the tree in Romanism. And a nice poper day to you and your fellow pagans.


13 posted on 05/25/2013 8:30:24 AM PDT by Big Bopper
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To: Big Bopper
"The poper really needs to understand God’s word..."

Any comparison or contrasting of the Pope's understanding of God's word to the Truth requires that you understand both God's Word and the Pope's theology. Your comments strongly suggest you understand neither.

Pax et Bonem

14 posted on 05/25/2013 8:41:59 AM PDT by Natural Law (Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, dona nobis pacem.)
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To: DaveMSmith
I can relate to the unwed mother wanting to baptize her infant son

I did not know about this -- I mean the difficulty the mother would run into pursuing baptism. Had never given it any thought. Although normally I'm on the "rules and correct" side, it does not seem Christian to deny baptism if that's what happens. It certainly isn't the baby's fault and its soul is in need of cleansing from original sin. I hope these innocent infants can be baptized. If not, I wouldn't hesitate for a second to send them to another Christian church, Catholic or not.

15 posted on 05/25/2013 8:48:59 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: Tax-chick

16 posted on 05/25/2013 8:50:13 AM PDT by Anoreth (It is not moth eaten. It is superb.)
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To: Tax-chick

**“Know Christ (personally). Live Christ (radically). Share Christ (boldly).” The order is important.**

Excellent summary.


17 posted on 05/25/2013 8:53:31 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Anoreth

KEWL!!!


18 posted on 05/25/2013 9:45:03 AM PDT by Tax-chick (The Commie Plot Theory of Everything. Give it a try - you'll be surprised how often it makes sense.)
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To: Salvation

Thank you.


19 posted on 05/25/2013 9:45:31 AM PDT by Tax-chick (The Commie Plot Theory of Everything. Give it a try - you'll be surprised how often it makes sense.)
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To: Natural Law

What a laugh and thanks for pretending you know the truth, poper is the false prophet. See, God’s scripture tells me the truth about that. So, Latin boy, don’t think everyone is as dumb as you are maklng your false,( as in the big false church)accusations. Practice your idolatries like a good little brainwashed boy you are and leave it at that. Mary might get mad at you and we couldn’t have that. could we?


20 posted on 05/25/2013 11:27:21 AM PDT by Big Bopper
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To: Big Bopper
"So, Latin boy, don’t think everyone is as dumb as you are maklng your false,( as in the big false church)accusations."

May the peace of the Lord be with you, too.

21 posted on 05/25/2013 11:42:17 AM PDT by Natural Law (Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, dona nobis pacem.)
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To: Natural Law

Maybe it’s the full moon or something. New troll with old signup date.


22 posted on 05/25/2013 1:17:42 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The Commie Plot Theory of Everything. Give it a try - you'll be surprised how often it makes sense.)
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To: Tax-chick
"Maybe it’s the full moon or something."

We are all guilty of it to one degree or another, but if we were to be judged by the way we treat each other in this Forum and not by our words it would be clear who are Christians and who are posers.

Peace be with you

23 posted on 05/25/2013 1:51:31 PM PDT by Natural Law (Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, dona nobis pacem.)
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To: NYer
but Jesus instituted the seven sacraments with this attitude and we are establishing the eighth: the sacrament of pastoral customs!

OK, so can someone tell me what *this* means? 8th sacrament? Wut?

24 posted on 05/25/2013 3:45:46 PM PDT by piusv
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To: steve86

You know I have a hard time believing that this is Church rules (not to allow baptism to a child born of a single mother). I would bet that he was focusing on the secretary who takes it upon herself to judge the unmarried woman.


25 posted on 05/25/2013 4:09:55 PM PDT by piusv
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To: oh8eleven
Good to see that I'm not the only who is insulted by a Pope who thinks it's wrong for Catholics to follow the rules of his own church.

He calls atheists "children of God" despite the fact that the Church teaches that Baptism makes us children of God, so I guess this isn't so bad....or at least not so surprising.

I can't believe what I'm reading lately.

26 posted on 05/25/2013 4:15:30 PM PDT by piusv
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To: Big Bopper

27 posted on 05/25/2013 4:15:47 PM PDT by narses
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To: oh8eleven
What is it that I do as a Catholic that is "closed and unfriendly? I bet you don't call atheists children of God.
28 posted on 05/25/2013 4:18:13 PM PDT by piusv
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To: Big Bopper; Natural Law; narses; Tax-chick
See, God’s scripture tells me the truth about that.

Wonderful! And you have a pope to thank for those scriptures.

29 posted on 05/25/2013 4:33:36 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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