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Marching Orders -- Support The Scouts of Saint George
http://catholicknight.blogspot.com/ ^ | May 27, 10`2 | The Catholic Kniight

Posted on 05/28/2013 4:12:45 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

In the face of the recent decision by the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) to admit openly practising homosexuals into the organisation, an exodus of Catholics from the BSA is under way. Already thousands have responded to the call of Dr. Taylor Marshall to create the Catholic "Scouts of Saint George."

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1 posted on 05/28/2013 4:12:45 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

One wonders what strategy the left will use to subvert
The Scouts of Saint George if it ever sees the light of day.

IMHO


2 posted on 05/28/2013 4:17:27 AM PDT by ripley
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To: NKP_Vet

bttt


3 posted on 05/28/2013 4:26:06 AM PDT by varon (USA Nationalist)
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To: ripley

The ACLU will use the tactics as they did with the BSA. “God” should not be in the oath or “inflicted upon another boy”.


4 posted on 05/28/2013 4:27:57 AM PDT by albie
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To: NKP_Vet

This immediately destroys the BSA. Wearing the uniform was already an embarrassement to some boys because of stigma of being “uncool”. (the underwear is supposed to be on the outside). Now, wearing the uniform gets you called every gay name in the world. If I had a son we’d be through as of last week..


5 posted on 05/28/2013 4:31:44 AM PDT by albie
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To: ripley
One wonders what strategy the left will use to subvert The Scouts of Saint George if it ever sees the light of day.

As a private organization they can admit who they want and exclude who they want. The Boy Scouts set that precedent before they finally caved.

6 posted on 05/28/2013 4:33:57 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: NKP_Vet
traditional BSA; OK
Buggery Scouts; Nevermine.
the NAMBLA / Marxists won this ONE...

7 posted on 05/28/2013 4:42:06 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: NKP_Vet

I still don’t understand why the scouts caved. Within five years, they are going to be an also ran organization and that’s very sad...


8 posted on 05/28/2013 5:12:08 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden (t)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

According to a report I read by a man who’s been a Scout Master for years, they did it because of corporate pressure. According to this guy, Scout Masters and Administrators get a retirement pension as reward for their service if they serve a certain number of years. The Corps were threatening to pull the funding.

So, as ever, its all about the money, if this report is indeed true. At the end of this exercize, I expect the Scouts will be Federalized into some sort of Brown Shirt Youth movement.


9 posted on 05/28/2013 5:25:22 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I agree.

if they held their ground, it looks like Obama’s thuggish attacks using the irs and injustice department is weakening. It is sad that they caved. It looks like we will be voting to keep or resolve our local troop in the next few days.


10 posted on 05/28/2013 5:26:28 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: FreeAtlanta

Dissolve, not resolve


11 posted on 05/28/2013 5:30:08 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: NKP_Vet

If local dens of Scouts are independent of the national organization, then are they bound by this execrable decision or can they exercise their individual prerogative and deny admission to homos?

If they can’t, what’s to stop them from forswearing affiliation with the national aand establishing an Independent Boy Scouts organization that embraces the classic values of Scouting?


12 posted on 05/28/2013 5:37:07 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: NKP_Vet

(Sigh).......its a great idea, but I strongly suspect that this guy and others like him don’t get a big piece of the picture. The only way a religious “group”; church; congregation, etc., can escape the mandates of the gov’t is to do as do the Amish, the Menonites, etc. and limit participation in organizations to members of that religious “sect” or belief system, etc. The USCCB, at their core “know” this, but they’re resisting near to the point of compromising their principles because they cling to the “money” handed them for running services, hospitals, clinics, schools, that are non-sectarian, ie, open to all faiths. If they go the Amish route, the footprint, (physical plants) of the church would shrink to the size of an ant. Very, very sad. At some point someone needs to point out that they can’t serve both God and Mamon.


13 posted on 05/28/2013 5:37:12 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: NKP_Vet

14 posted on 05/28/2013 5:45:46 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Rich21IE

Your second sentence does not square with my experience and knowledge. Scoutmasters are strictly unpaid volunteers, usually parents of a Scout in the troop or members of the chartering organization, like a church. The professional, paid scouters work through the local council with assignments to districts, camps, or council staff/admin. These people likely do have a retirement program that would be threatened if corporate dollars were withdrawn as a form of pressure on policy.


15 posted on 05/28/2013 5:46:15 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: IronJack

Den = Cub Scout, i.e. elementary ages 6-11.

Troop = Boy Scout, ages 11-18.

Just FYI...

Also, there is no such thing as being “independent” because use of the terms “Scout” or “Scouting” is restricted by Public Law to the BSA and GSA with their respective Congressional Charters. If you want the benefits of the program for advancement, training, organization, and facilities access, then there remains no choice on the policy.


16 posted on 05/28/2013 5:52:56 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Look for independent organizations to build on the ruins of the BSA.


17 posted on 05/28/2013 6:01:14 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: T-Bird45

Thanks for the information; as I’d mentioned, I wasn’t sure what was correct.


18 posted on 05/28/2013 6:19:14 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: T-Bird45

Somebody needs to tell every 19D they aren’t REALLY Scouts. Or tell that to a Marine Corps Scout Sniper. Native American tribes also currently use the term “scout” for both training courses and organizations that are unrelated to the BSA.

There were Scouts before the law and the terms “scout” and “scouting” were both used. I’d love to see BSA argue in court that no one else can use the terms.


19 posted on 05/28/2013 6:21:48 AM PDT by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: cizinec

Give me a break - no disrespect was meant to the military scouts, whatever the uniform. The Congressional Charter had to do with youth organizations’ use of the word within the organizational name.


20 posted on 05/28/2013 7:17:00 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: T-Bird45

I stand corrected on the terminology.

I do not believe the BSA “owns” use of the word “scout.” Maybe they own rights to “Boy Scouts,” but they cannot prevent another group from calling themselves “Independent Scouting Association of America” or something similar .

Nor can they prevent another organization from adopting the training and education the former BSA promoted, so long as they don’t steal copyrighted material from Scout handbooks or literature.

As far as facilities, at first they will admittedly be limited. But there are plenty of public parks in which the new group can camp, and as funds for the Buggery & Sodomy scouts dwindle, I think you can expect a corresponding growth in resources available to the True Scouts.

The ultimate justice would be the True Scouts buying rights to “Boy Scouts” when the Buggers go bankrupt .


21 posted on 05/28/2013 7:42:09 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: NKP_Vet

BTTT!


22 posted on 05/28/2013 7:42:55 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Rich21IE

This would need to be a Catholic or Christian group of Scouts accepting no money from anywhere, probably under the auspices of the local Knights of Columbus at each and every church available.

They would also need to pull some money together to buy some of the camp grounds that the Girls Scouts are now selling. (Girl Scouts went south the lesbian and PP support a long time ago.)


23 posted on 05/28/2013 7:59:24 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: IronJack; cizinec
Here's the direct information for you to check it out for yourself. The BSA is a Title 36 Corporation under US law with a Congressional Charter. Other similarly chartered organizations include the USO and the VFW, for example. As far as the BSA or GSUSA goes, a primary point of the charter is that no other youth organizations may use "scouts" or "scouting" in their name. Those words are reserved to those two organizations. The specific terminology within the law (36USC, S.30905):

The corporation has the exclusive right to use emblems, badges, descriptive or designating marks, and words or phrases the corporation adopts.

Read: US Code, Title 36: Sec. 309

24 posted on 05/28/2013 8:29:13 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: T-Bird45

All right, then call them Young Pioneers or Advance Trailblazers or Pathfinders or something. For cripes’ sake, don’t let a WORD stand in the way!


25 posted on 05/28/2013 9:05:10 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack

I’m not arguing with you or the need for a positive youth organization that is safe and has a moral compass with principled leadership. Honestly, we’re on the same side but if something is going to be done for the kids, just make sure to use a name that doesn’t put you in the position of immediately wasting resources on an unnecessary fight.


26 posted on 05/28/2013 9:12:48 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Salvation

Curious to know; did the GSA see much fall out from their sell out? I mean in terms of drop in support/membership? You made the statement “GS went south”; I hadn’t kept track of any of that.


27 posted on 05/29/2013 1:14:53 PM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: T-Bird45

Sounds to me like it’s time to repeal 36 USC Sec. 309.


28 posted on 05/29/2013 3:50:29 PM PDT by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: T-Bird45

That’s fine. If it’s a congressional charter, pull it. The Assemblies of God has the Royal Rangers and they don’t need a Congressional Charter. If some other youth organization wants to use “Scout” in its name, that’s fine by me.


29 posted on 05/29/2013 3:53:27 PM PDT by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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