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To: ebb tide

I give the benefit of the doubt to the Successor of Peter any time over and against private opinion to the contrary. This benefit consists in this: everything he says is to be understood as consistent with Catholic teaching unless he directly, explicitly, and unequivocally expresses the contrary, with the intention to bind the Church to what he says.

~Theo


36 posted on 06/04/2013 12:57:04 PM PDT by Teˇfilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Te├│filo
And you ignore the heresy he spouts off the record. Gotcha! Cherry pick what you will, Teo! Protestants are known to do that also.
38 posted on 06/04/2013 6:23:34 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Te├│filo
"This benefit consists in this: everything he says is to be understood as consistent with Catholic teaching unless he directly, explicitly, and unequivocally expresses the contrary, with the intention to bind the Church to what he says."

Do you realize the above statement means the pope can speak with forked tongue, and according to you, we are obliged to believe everything he spouts until he speaks ex cathedra and overrules himself?

Teo, I have many past, holy popes, who did exercise their authority to speak directly, explicitly, and unequivocally the Catholic truth, to rely on. I'm sorry you refuse to give them any credence; yet give P. Francis, who refuses to exercise the same authority, benefit of the doubt with his ecumenical follies promoting Salvation outside the Church. If Pope Francis states tomorrow that there is no Hell nor Heaven, will you believe him until he speaks ex cathedra? You can't worship this Pope as infallible at all times and ignore the past Popes.

39 posted on 06/04/2013 7:18:37 PM PDT by ebb tide
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