Posted on 06/02/2013 11:32:31 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
The church was “raptured” when it fled Jerusalem before the civil war that began in 66-67AD consumed the city.
No, when the "harpazo" event occurs, ALL the "dead in Christ" are to rise into the air, into the clouds, not just walking on the ground, and they will not be rejoined to an old rotten body, and their life will not come from blood--their life will be in the Spirit, and they will possess a never-dying perfected spiritual body.
And ALL those which have not yet parted from a flesh body will do so, and likewise will transition immediately into the same new spiritual body without oxygen-bearing haemoglobin, and with those caught up will ascend into the first heaven, the air and clouds, and be joined there with Christ and the others who have been waiting, and will all proceed to the third heaven to wait out the duration of the tribulation. At that point, The Christ will not yet have returned to the Earth's soil, the ground.
If He had, as you propose, all believers dead or alive would have proceeded with him into some kind of unbridgeable water-tight seclusion, no longer to go about the world in evangelical activities, the remainder of the NT canon would not have been written, and without it the Gospel could not have been broadcast, certainly not effectively believable by unregenerated practitioners.
If Jesus had then retrod the earth, the Scriptural rules for His Presence are that the Holy Ghost would have to have gone back to the third heaven (Jn. 16:7-8), and thus there would be no Spirit-filled flesh-and-blood humans for the save-the-world evangelism for another 2,000 years. (And furthermore, this is a thousand-watt-lighted reason that a Lord's Supper requiring the literal Real Presence on the Earth of His Person is absolute nonsense. This figment of man's imagination says that His Flesh and His Blood are continually recreated from substances that then were by Him only identified as figurative-literal objects for the perpetuation of His Remembrance, a Memorial Supper.)
Oh, I could go on and on, showing the non sequiturs of your your silly illogic are supported neither by history nor by Scriptural theology, and it is not reasonable to give you bandwidth on this forum, and in this dispensational caucus, to air your interference with legitimate exchange of questions, observations, and exhortations that encourage and edify the sincere seeker or truly regenerated believer, for whom the posts and articles are a boon.
The stated 'gentleman's agreement" in the operation of this FR forum, as I understand it, is that for those declared as caucus participants, the intrusion of theological oppositionally defiant contrariness is neither required nor desired. It is a great time-wasting inconvenience. Your theories will not bear water, so according to the rules of maintaining a FR presence, it would seem to be acceptable manners to form your own "Non-dispensational, Non-covenantal" theological caucus, with its own members, and air your nonsense water-balloons there.
It just gets in the way here, generating heat but no spiritual light in this venue. IMHO.
Moderator, am I wrong in this?
The posts by non-members on this thread were removed within 15 minutes of the abuse report.
Thanks for the earlier link and, also, for making me aware there are such ‘teachings’. I just finished watching it now!
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