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Have You Accepted Jesus into Your Heart?
Standing on my head ^ | June 7, 2013 | Fr. Dwight Longenecker

Posted on 06/07/2013 2:33:44 PM PDT by NYer

A friend of mine was showing a Southern Baptist neighbor around the Catholic Church. She explained the Stations of the Cross, the crucifix, the image of the Blessed Mother and the saints.

Then they came to the image of the Sacred Heart of Jesus. The Baptist was bemused.

“Why do y’all have a statue of Jesus with his heart on the outside?”

“Well,” said the Catholic lady sweetly, “You Baptists like to ask Jesus into your heart right?”

“That’s right.”

“We like to ask Jesus to take us into his heart.”

Perfect apologetics. Welcoming and kind and working from what the other person knows to what they have yet to discover.

Here’s a poem for the Solemnity today:

My true love hath my heart and I have his,
By just exchange one for another given;
I hold his dear, and mine he cannot mis,
There never was a better bargain driven.
My true love has my heart and I have his.

His heart in me keeps him and me in one,
My heart in him his thoughts and senses guides
He loves my heart, for once it was his own,
I cherish his, because in me it bides.
My true love has my heart and I have his.

Read Sacred Heart – Tough Love

 


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1 posted on 06/07/2013 2:33:44 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 06/07/2013 2:34:05 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer

A resounding YES!


3 posted on 06/07/2013 2:38:01 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: NYer

See Romans 10:9.


4 posted on 06/07/2013 2:40:29 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

He already took me into HIS heart the day he took my sins on the cross and died for me - I took Him as my Savior at the tender age of 6 and KNOW it is by HIS GRACE I have been saved, not by works should I even boast. (Eph 2:8,9)


5 posted on 06/07/2013 2:46:40 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: NYer
If He loves us ..

we're already in His heart.

WE'RE the ones that have the option to choose or refuse.

Christ refuses no one.

WHY would The One that made us, loves us, will never forsake us need or want us to ask Him if He will let us in?

Nay ... WE must open OUR hearts and ask Him into ours.

6 posted on 06/07/2013 2:46:59 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I can't prove it, but they're true)
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To: NYer

The poem is from a sonnet in Sir Philip Sidney’s “Arcadia.”

But I must admit it does fit the subject here.


7 posted on 06/07/2013 2:51:03 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Resolute Conservative

More appropriate would be 2 Thessalonians 3:5 (NIV)


8 posted on 06/07/2013 2:53:58 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: NYer

This brief vignette is amazing only in that neither participant knew what God teaches in His Holy Bible about salvation - nor does the article use a single inspired verse to inform. instead, we are treated to a manmade art object as a substitute for His truth. Astounding!


9 posted on 06/07/2013 2:56:38 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: NYer
John 6:65
And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
10 posted on 06/07/2013 2:57:23 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: NYer

Yes. It is a good thing. Interesting though, the Bible of course states to “believe” but it never mentions the actual “accept Jesus in to your heart”.


11 posted on 06/07/2013 3:00:36 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: NYer; newgeezer
Have You Accepted Jesus into Your Heart?

I just corrected my wife on this one. The bible says nothing about accepting Him into your heart, it says to believe.

12 posted on 06/07/2013 3:05:32 PM PDT by DungeonMaster ( 1Cor 7:21Were you called while a slave? Do not be concerned about it;)
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To: knarf
WHY would The One that made us, loves us, will never forsake us need or want us to ask Him if He will let us in?

"Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, (then) I will enter his house and dine with him, and he with me. Rev. 3:20

13 posted on 06/07/2013 3:15:27 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer
“Why do y’all have a statue of Jesus with his heart on the outside?”

“Well,” said the Catholic lady sweetly, “You Baptists like to ask Jesus into your heart right?”

“That’s right.”

“We like to ask Jesus to take us into his heart.”

SYNTAX ERROR

14 posted on 06/07/2013 3:24:15 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I can't prove it, but they're true)
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To: NYer

Revelation 3:20 is one of the most abused verses in all of the Bible and it does not mean what your post implied.

Jesus does not knock at the heart’s door of sinners. He never has, and He never will. When He wants to save a man, He calls him to eternal life by His life-giving voice (John 5:25). Sinners can no more resist than did Lazarus (John 11:43-44) or will all dead bodies in the last day (John 5:28-29). If He merely asked sinners to open their doors, no man would be saved (Ps 14:1-3; Rom 3:9- 18). He forcibly and sovereignly regenerates sinners by His own power (John 1:13; 3:8; 5:21). The great God does not ask or beg sinners to cooperate with Him: He raises them from spiritual death with the same resurrection power that raised Jesus from the dead (Eph 1:19-20; 2:1).

The words in this verse are for the church at Laodicea, not sinners in general (Rev 3:14-22). The words were for those with ears to hear, not those needing ears (John 8:43,47). This section of Revelation has the words of Jesus Christ to the pastors of seven churches of Asia. The church of the Laodiceans was self-confident and self-righteous. Jesus rebuked them for their lukewarm condition and haughty spirit, and He described them as being spiritually wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked! They needed a personal relationship with Him for true spiritual riches.

The benefit offered by Jesus in the verse is fellowship, not salvation from hell. The Lord Jesus Christ offered the members of this church His personal presence for spiritual communion and fellowship, not regeneration or justification. These saints were already saved from hell as much as they could be; but they were living a miserable existence without a personal relationship with Christ. This offer was the fellowship and joy that John described elsewhere (I John 1:1-10).

And for the record, not all Southern Baptists like to “invite Jesus into our hearts.”


15 posted on 06/07/2013 3:32:51 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Exactly. Catholic apologists often seem proud of their supposedly profound retorts such as this one but rarely use scripture. That is because most will ultimately fall back on the Church supposedly being a higher authority than scripture.

The fact that the Bible never instructs us explicitly to ask Jesus into our hearts certainly does not provide cover for yet another example of the Catholic tolerance and even promotion of idol worship which includes the supposed representation of Jesus’s heart.

At least scripture actually does say that Christ can dwell in our heart by faith. Jesus also told His disciples the Father would give His Spirit to those who asked. The Spirit is the means by which both the Father and Son take residence in the believer.


16 posted on 06/07/2013 3:50:36 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Exactly. The confession of our mouth that Jesus is Lord and that God raised Him from the dead cannot be empty words, but rather an expression of true faith. Ephesians 2:8-9 states that it is that faith, by grace, that saves us. Many people give intellectual assent to the Gospel, but have not allowed Jesus to be Lord of their life.


17 posted on 06/07/2013 3:59:28 PM PDT by Freestate316 (Know what you believe and why you believe it.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Very true.

I’m often amused at fundies who claim that praying the Believers Prayer and asking Jesus to come into their heart = Salvation.

Disclaimer: I’m an evangelical non-denom Christian myself - and NOWHERE in the Bible is this found as the (only) way unto salvation


18 posted on 06/07/2013 5:09:03 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: unlearner; HoosierDammit; TYVets; red irish; fastrock; NorthernCrunchyCon; UMCRevMom@aol.com; ...

“Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, (then) I will enter his house and dine with him, and he with me. Rev. 3:20

Credo in Deum Patrem omnipotentem;
Creatorem caeli et terrae.

Et in Jesum Christum,
Filium eius unicum, Dominum nostrum;
qui conceptus est
de Spiritu Sancto,
natus ex Maria virgine;
passus sub Pontio Pilato,
crucifixus, mortuus, et sepultus;
descendit ad inferos;
tertia die resurrexit a mortuis;
ascendit ad caelos;
sedet ad dexteram Dei Patris omnipotentis;
inde venturus est
iudicare vivos et mortuos.

Credo in Spiritum Sanctum;
sanctam ecclesiam catholicam;
sanctorum communionem;
remissionem peccatorum;
carnis resurrectionem;
vitam aeternam. Amen.

In English:

I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.

I believe in Jesus Christ,
his only Son, our Lord.
He was conceived
by the power of the Holy Spirit,
and born of the Virgin Mary,
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried;
He descended into hell.
On the third day he rose again;
he ascended into heaven,
he is seated at the right hand of the Father,
he will come again
to judge the living and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy Catholic church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen


19 posted on 06/07/2013 5:12:13 PM PDT by narses
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To: NYer


20 posted on 06/07/2013 5:14:34 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: .45 Long Colt

God has chosen the willing. He has not willed the chosen. When Paul asked “who has resisted His will?” He was not making an argument for that statement, he was rather pointing out the foolishness of that view. Many resist His will. Sin is against His will. Christ taught to pray Thy will be done... because it isn’t currently.

Paul warned not to receive the grace of God in vain. He said he did not frustrate the grace of God. And Hebrews warns of the possibility of our failing in relation to God’s grace.

Our participation by receiving grace does not constitute earning or working for grace or the gift of salvation. Receiving means receiving. When someone gives a gift you can receive it or reject it. Some receive Christ. Some receive Him not.

What Calvinists and non-Calvinists can agree on is Christ’s death is sufficient for all but only efficient for the elect. Anyone who enters Heaven will give God 100 percent of the credit, and anyone who goes to hell must accept 100 percent of the blame.


22 posted on 06/07/2013 5:49:59 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: NYer
אֲנִי לְדֹודִי וְעָלַי תְּשׁוּקָתֹֽו "I am my beloved's, and his desire is for me." (Song of Songs 7:10, v.11 the in Tanakh)

The only other time this word for "desire" is found in the Bible is in Gen. 3:16, when Eve is told that she will have desire for her husband, and the word תְּשׁוּקָתֹֽו has the implication of a craving (the word in Haggai's "desire of the nations" is different, meaning something pleasant to desire). We belong to Him because of the price He paid to redeem us from death and the power of the devil, but He craves us, and will move heaven and earth to be with us; it is never His fault that we have sclerokardia and would rather go our own way.

23 posted on 06/07/2013 6:12:48 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: NYer

Notice that there is no knob on the outside of the door where Jesus is standing.

We need to open the door to our hearts by turning the knob on the inside of the door and opening it for him.


24 posted on 06/07/2013 6:30:16 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer
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25 posted on 06/07/2013 6:37:39 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“I’m often amused at fundies who claim that praying the Believers Prayer and asking Jesus to come into their heart = Salvation.”

No doubt this is a valid act of entrusting oneself to Christ alone for salvation, with child-like understanding... But as to the words, they are not Biblical.


26 posted on 06/07/2013 6:50:35 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: NYer
The Reverend Longenecker is right. Or, why should I trust some anonymous Internet keyboard warriors and amateur theologians over a well educated, well spoken priest?
27 posted on 06/07/2013 6:53:53 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: unlearner

I said the same things about Calvinism for almost 40 years. But short of salvation, the absolute best thing that has ever happened to me was coming to understand the Doctrines of Grace. I’m a radically different man.

“For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.” (Romans 9:15-17)

“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. (Ephesians 1:3-6)

“You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.” (John 15:16)

“So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace. But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace. What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened” (Romans 11:5-7)

“But we ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers beloved by the Lord, because God chose you as the firstfruits to be saved, through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth. To this he called you through our gospel, so that you may obtain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. (2 Thessalonians 2:13-14)

Based on the authority of Scripture I know that I wasn’t seeking Him and I would never have chosen Him had He not chosen me first because:

“None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” (Romans 3:11-12)

I truly believe your argument isn’t with me, it’s with Scripture.


28 posted on 06/07/2013 7:30:21 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: unlearner

“God has chosen the willing.”


There aren’t any:

Rom 3:10-12 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: (11) There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. (12) They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

“He has not willed the chosen.”


He has willed the chosen:

Act_13:48 ... and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

And the chosen do not choose Christ, they are chosen by Christ.

Joh_15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

“When Paul asked “who has resisted His will?” He was not making an argument for that statement, he was rather pointing out the foolishness of that view.”


No, he was responding to the outrage that his previous statements cause (like the outrage you feel right now when we say it).

Here’s the sentence:

Rom 9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

And here is what precedes it:

Rom 9:11-18 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) (12) It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. (13) As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. (14) What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. (15) For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. (16) So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. (17) For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. (18) Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

Is God hardening anyone or no? Did God choose Jacob before neither child had done good or evil or no? And if Paul was just ridiculing his own ideas... why is there outrage? “Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?” Why would they say “Why doth he yet find fault?” if Paul did not just get done teaching the Gospel of election, which asserts that no one can come to God unless God gives it to him?

“And Hebrews warns of the possibility of our failing in relation to God’s grace.”


From Calvin’s commentary on Hebrews 6

“But here arises a new question, how can it be that he who has once made such a progress should afterwards fall away? For God, it may be said, calls none effectually but the elect, and Paul testifies that they are really his sons who are led by his Spirit, (Romans 8:14;) and he teaches us, that it is a sure pledge of adoption when Christ makes us partakers of his Spirit. The elect are also beyond the danger of finally falling away; for the Father who gave them to be preserved by Christ his Son is greater than all, and Christ promises to watch over them all so that none may perish. To all this I answer, That God indeed favors none but the elect alone with the Spirit of regeneration, and that by this they are distinguished from the reprobate; for they are renewed after his image and receive the earnest of the Spirit in hope of the future inheritance, and by the same Spirit the Gospel is sealed in their hearts. But I cannot admit that all this is any reason why he should not grant the reprobate also some taste of his grace, why he should not irradiate their minds with some sparks of his light, why he should not give them some perception of his goodness, and in some sort engrave his word on their hearts. Otherwise, where would be the temporal faith mentioned by Mark 4:17? There is therefore some knowledge even in the reprobate, which afterwards vanishes away, either because it did not strike roots sufficiently deep, or because it withers, being choked up.
And by this bridle the Lord keeps us in fear and humility; and we certainly see how prone human nature is otherwise to security and foolish confidence. At the same time our solicitude ought to be such as not to disturb the peace of conscience. For the Lord strengthens faith in us, while he subdues our flesh: and hence he would have faith to remain and rest tranquilly as in a safe haven; but he exercises the flesh with various conflicts, that it may not grow wanton through idleness.”

There is no reason to suppose that the damned cannot share in the gifts of God and yet still, ultimately, fall away. The Lord tells of those who would say to Him “Lord, Lord, have we not done many wonderful works in your name? Have we not cast out devils in your name? And prophesied in your name?” (Matt 7:22, paraphrased). And yet Christ’s response isn’t “I knew you until you rejected me.” He replies, “I never knew you.” From the beginning, they were unknown, they were never “of us.” As John explains, they “must leave us” because they were “not of us.” Not that they were “once of us, but now cease to be”:

1Jn_2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

To compare, the sheep of God are always known by the Shepard:

Joh 10:26-27 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. (27) My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

They can never fall away nor fail to be found:

Joh 10:28-29 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. (29) My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand.

Joh_6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

Mar_13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

“Receiving means receiving.”


Receiving means receiving the knowledge that Jesus is the Christ, not through your own mental knowledge or particular holiness in “seeking God” (there are none who seek), but through a direct revelation by God Himself:

Mat_16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

1Co_12:3 ... no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

And unless God reveals Himself to you, unless God gives it to you from above to believe, you can never believe:

Joh 6:64-65 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. (65) And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

Notice, also, that the Jews here did not receive it from the Father and then rejected. They never “received” it at all, and that is why they did not believe. The fact that some receive it and others don’t is fatal to your position.

“Anyone who enters Heaven will give God 100 percent of the credit,”


By definition, if you claim that you are persevering in faith, then you get credit for being that rare person who ‘seeks after God’ and sticks with Him, unlike everyone else.


29 posted on 06/07/2013 7:53:20 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Salvation

“Notice that there is no knob on the outside of the door where Jesus is standing.”


Notice that your theology is based on the various details found within paintings.


30 posted on 06/07/2013 7:54:02 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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31 posted on 06/07/2013 7:54:06 PM PDT by narses
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32 posted on 06/07/2013 7:54:29 PM PDT by narses
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To: cornfedcowboy
Yes. It is a good thing. Interesting though, the Bible of course states to “believe” but it never mentions the actual “accept Jesus in to your heart”.

John 1:12-13 12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

Ephesians 3:14-19 14 For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, 15 from whom every family in heaven and on earth is named, 16 that according to the riches of his glory he may grant you to be strengthened with power through his Spirit in your inner being, 17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith—that you, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 may have strength to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, 19 and to know the love of Christ that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.

33 posted on 06/07/2013 8:18:00 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

So?


34 posted on 06/07/2013 8:19:29 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; Greetings_Puny_Humans

Clueless.

Totally clueless......


35 posted on 06/07/2013 8:30:12 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

I am not clueless. Thanks for pinging me.

Jesus always waits for us to approach him. I think you know that.


36 posted on 06/07/2013 8:35:28 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: narses
Yes! That is a True confession of Faith. I challenged a spell-caster under the Holy Spirit. This was when she declared herself a Christian. I told her that she could not declare Christ came in the Flesh/human as in the Creeds. 1John4.

Entities starting making her stutter right when it got to Born of the Virgin Mary. If you are possessed. Meaning deep into Tarot cards and "new Age" you will not be able to declare. When she tried to say it -only "There are many Gods" came out of her mouth. She was more shocked than I. She tried it several times same answer. It cannot be pronounced in the personal pronoun if one is deep in the occult. Astonishingly accurate.

1 John Chapter 4

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1John 4

2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:..

3 and every spirit that confesseth not Jesus is not of God: and this is the spirit of the antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it cometh; and now it is in the world already...

15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God abideth in him, and he in...

2 John Chapter 1

7 For many deceivers are gone forth into the world, even they that confess not that Jesus Christ cometh in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist...

Revelation Chapter 3

5 He that overcometh shall thus be arrayed in white garments; and I will in no wise blot his name out of the book of life, and I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels...

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Eternal Father, we offer Thee the merits of the Most Precious Blood of Jesus, Thy Beloved Son and my Divine Redeemer, for all my relations, friends and enemies, for the poor, the sick, and those in tribulation, and for all those for whom Thou willest I should pray, or knowest that I ought to pray.

Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit, as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.

Blessed and praised forevermore be Jesus Who hath saved us by His Precious Blood!

37 posted on 06/07/2013 8:52:03 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Salvation
Jesus always waits for us to approach him. I think you know that.

No, He doesn't.

When He was here on earth, He spent three years actively reaching out to people. He didn't just sit back and wait for people to come to Him.

38 posted on 06/07/2013 9:28:10 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

the woman reaching for his cloak because of her hemmoraghing

The blind man calling from the side of the road

Nicodemus coming to Jesus at night

Just some examples where they sought Jesus


39 posted on 06/07/2013 9:40:20 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: metmom

For Catholics, Jesus sits and helplessly waits. For Christians, He is beating at the door and welcomed IN.


40 posted on 06/07/2013 9:47:00 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: Salvation; metmom

The lowering of the paralytic-—a case of others helping one to approach Jesus

The Centurion father of the dying child

The dying thief: “Remember me when You come into your kingdom”

Mary Magdalene washing His feet

And we can’t overlook prevenient grace, which is manifested in quite a few of the Scriptural accounts.


41 posted on 06/07/2013 9:50:22 PM PDT by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: bonfire

Catholics know the mystery of faith, the snake handlers and Harold Campings know everything!


42 posted on 06/07/2013 9:50:24 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Running On Empty

Thanks for those additional examples.


43 posted on 06/07/2013 9:53:00 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Running On Empty
I never said people didn't come to Him.

What I said is that He didn't sit around and wait for people to come to Him. He actively sought people out.

Read the gospels sometime. How many times did He say to His disciples, *Come on guys. Time to hit the road and preach the gospel in other towns.*?

Acts 10:34-38 34 So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality, 35 but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him. 36 As for the word that he sent to Israel, preaching good news of peace through Jesus Christ (he is Lord of all), 37 you yourselves know what happened throughout all Judea, beginning from Galilee after the baptism that John proclaimed: 38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power. He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him.

44 posted on 06/07/2013 9:54:48 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3028691/posts?page=38#38


45 posted on 06/07/2013 9:57:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: metmom

“Read the gospels sometime.”

Dear metmom, I read the Gospels every day of my life and have done so for most of my 85 years of life, especially ever since my Baptism at age 21.


46 posted on 06/07/2013 10:04:05 PM PDT by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: bonfire

God draws us, convicts us through the Holy Spirit of sin, righteousness, and judgment, set the times and places we should live so that we can most easily seek Him, commands all men everywhere to repent, works in us to will and to do according to His good pleasure, prepared in advance good works for us to do, strengthens us, has raised us up and seated us in the heavenly places, gives us the Spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him so that the eyes of our hearts be enlightened, strengthens us with power through his Spirit in our inner being, so that Christ may dwell in our hearts through faith, has made us alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands setting it aside, nailing it to the cross.

Doesn’t sound like a God who sits back passively and waits for US to do something.


47 posted on 06/07/2013 10:06:12 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Running On Empty

Then re-read my post.

I never said that people didn’t come to Jesus.

I disagreed with the statement that Jesus always waits for us to approach Him. (Post 36)


48 posted on 06/07/2013 10:10:53 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

I read it


49 posted on 06/07/2013 10:12:11 PM PDT by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: metmom

Amen. He does not sit back passively waiting for his sheep to come to Him.

“I know Mine own, Mine own know Me;
Ye, not the world, My face shall see.
My peace I leave with you.” Amen.


50 posted on 06/07/2013 10:15:38 PM PDT by bonfire
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