Skip to comments.SBC doesn’t call for Boy Scout exodus
Posted on 06/12/2013 9:04:27 PM PDT by Rashputin
SBC doesnt call for Boy Scout exodus
A highly anticipated resolution condemning the Boy Scouts new membership policy affirms churches and individuals that sever ties, while calling for greater engagement by those that dont.
By Bob Allen
The Southern Baptist Convention stopped short of urging churches to sever ties with the Boy Scouts of America in a June 11 resolution condemning the organizations recent decision to drop its ban on Scouts who are openly gay.
The non-binding resolution expresses continued opposition to and disappointment in the decision of the Boy Scouts of America to change its membership policy and called for the removal of Scout leaders who pushed for the policy change.
It affirms the right of all families and churches prayerfully to assess their continued relationship with the BSA and expresses support for those churches and families that as a matter of conscience can no longer be part of the Scouting family.
Meanwhile it encourages churches and families that seek to remain in the Boy Scouts to impact as many boys as possible with the life-changing gospel of Jesus Christ.
The resolution urges churches that choose to end sponsorship of Scout units to continue ministering to boys by expanding the Royal Ambassador ministry, a distinctively Southern Baptist missions organization to develop godly young men.
It also cites well-founded concern that the current executive leadership of the BSA, along with certain board members, may utilize this membership policy change as merely the first step toward future approval of homosexual leaders in the Scouts.
I'm especially interested in what people who are members of an SBC church think about this approach.
Wife and I are battling with this.. Kid loves it but.. We might let him finish off cub scouts and move on to something else.
Church we met in has told our pack we won’t be welcome much longer and to start looking for a “friendly” building to meet in.
I might be in Minnesota but I’m in the 6th.. About as red as you can get in MN.
I’m a member of a SB church.
I am very disappointed. Not surprised, just disappointed.
I am motivated at this point to just go find a church that has the gonads to actually stand up and do something instead of issuing shallow condemnations.
They might as well have said “we’re ok with it.”
People who parse and excuse deserve what happens to their kids. Their waffling brings that on them. It will be their fault for helping push the lib agenda.
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I gave up on them when they changed their tract literature to indicate that a young girl conceived not a Virgin conceive, when discussing the story of Mary. That was almost 4o years ago.
My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.
Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen
Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.
Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.
This is baloney. Boy Scouts are boys. They don’t need to be exposed to adult horsehockey and debauchery.
While I'm not unhappy with what was said, I definitely sympathise with everyone who is unhappy about what wasn't said (i.e. an emphatic and direct recommendation/condemnation). We didn't get more IMO because of the non-hierarchical nature of the SBC itself. The Convention doesn't demand obedience or dictate policy to the member churches, therefore it would be highly improper (to say the least) for it to issue a demand or requirement against the membership.
If you look at the exit polling in the last ten years, the SBC has proven itself to be a reliable voting bloc re conservative issues (not overwhelming, but far better than many Protestant bodies), I think their ecclesial structure has worked pretty well, and has helped them to be on the right side of social issues.
Thanks for posting this thread, Rashputin!
The slippery slope just got a new coat of wax. Now we just wait and see which churches give the BSA a nudge.
It was an even better resolution.
They asked for the top leadership of the Boy Scouts to resign.
Time to fight back.
It's as though those voting to not sever ties are saying, "deny the sin, embrace the sinner, lest I be called a bigot!"
This tactic, like that of the BSA, will only be labeled bigotry anyway by the homosexual activists. Give them an inch, they demand the whole block!
Read the resolution.
They pretty much urged members to cut ties and move to Royal Rangers.
I am a member of a local SBC and a church goer, but for how much longer I’m not sure. Sunday I noticed the music yeller has a piercing across one eyebrow.
Some teens wear short short shorts to Church. There is no longer dress codes nor ruler nor respect for God, so I am not surprised the Boy Scouts are still okay. They might be using the ladies bathroom, I am not sure.
It is hard to remember when people had respect for things holy.
We even had candles at Sunday Service. Never have seen that before.
In my experience there were always a good number of people who felt like withdrawing from any organization that went off the rails would a form of surrender. Even some of the most conservative folks often argued that that we should stay a part of this or that to be a burr under their saddle.
Everything seemed to take about five times as long to resolve as it should have because even a good many conservative people didn't want to seem like they weren't willing to listen to both sides. We usually ended up with something that didn't please anyone but wasn't so distasteful to anyone that they'd leave the congregation over it.
So you think it’s fine.
Urging is sufficient then.
IMHO, churches need to be tax exempt but they don't need to be a 501(c) corporation.
The current wave of “tax the churches” for the good of the churches stuff is the same sort of "ground swell" twisted propaganda that got the 17th Amendment passed “for the good of the people” when in reality that Amendment eliminates the Senate as the Constitution created it by installing a new, unconstitutional, “Senator” who represents national interests rather than the voters who the Senator.
There seems to be a lot of the old turn of the century progressive agenda being repackaged and spread around in ways that make it sound conservative unless you think through what the consequences will really be once the changes are in effect.