Are you or are you not in unity with fellow protestan Bishop Vicky Gene Robinson?
I normally avoid these discussions as people do not focus on the correct things that make a church the church. However this needs to be addressed, if nothing else as a way to stop you from slandering everyone.
"Vicky" Is not a Christian. it's a self proclaimed homosexual. The two are mutually incompatible.
Protestants are no more in unity with them than Pope Francis is just another homosexual priest molesting altar boys.
Now, are those faggot priests who molested all those kids Catholics? or have they turned their back on God and the church they supposedly belonged to and excommunicated themselves?
So if you can tar all protestants with a faggot non-Christian, then you can be tarred with those faggot child molestors.
Get on to the real issue. We are not called to be Protestant or to be Catholic. We are called to be Christian. You don't have to be a member of any certain church (as all Christians together form the one true Church).
Do you, JCBrekenridge, believe the Jesus is the Son of God and that He suffered, died, was buried and rose again in payment of your sins, and have you accepted that atonement for your sins. Have you made Jesus YOUR Savior? If so, then we are brothers in Christ no matter what church you attend. If not you need to get saved, hell is too hot and eternity lasts too long to play around with this.
The bible never once asks what church someone belongs to, only WHO they belong to. (that is, salvation is an individual issue, not a communal issue)
So, we can continue pissing on each other with trivial and unimportant questions ("My steeple's taller than your steeple". "My 'church' was founded before yours was" etc) or we can get out there and make the world a better place by bringing souls to Jesus.
(”My steeple’s taller than your steeple”. “My ‘church’ was founded before yours was” etc)
You omitted “my church was founded by Jesus” v “my church was founded by a bipolar German monk” v “my church was founded by a murderous king”
’ “Vicky” Is not a Christian.’ “
Bishop Vicky Gene Robinson claims to be a Christian.
“Protestants are no more in unity with them”
He is a Protestant. Many protestants are in unity with him. I gave a list. The ECLA, the ECUSA, the PCUSA and the UMC are all in unity with Bishop Vicky Gene Robinson. All of these organizations believe that he is a representative of Christ here on earth.
All of these organizations are protestant.
So tell me. How does one determine who is protestant and who is not? Is Vicky correct or are you correct? This is the question I asked right out of the gate.
What is the essential definition of ‘protestant’?
So far, I see only one and it applies equally to you as to Bishop Gene Robinson - you define yourself as ‘not Catholic’. Through boolean logic.
There is no unity on doctrine. I can point to any doctrine and find someone who is a protestant who disagrees. This renders the concept of Christian ‘unity’ a lie. There is no unity among Protestant Christians.
“So if you can tar all protestants with a faggot non-Christian”
He says he’s a Christian. He has made his profession of faith in public, and his personal testimony. Many, many, many other protestants agree with him and not you.
“Get on to the real issue. We are not called to be Protestant or to be Catholic. We are called to be Christian. You don’t have to be a member of any certain church (as all Christians together form the one true Church).”
So what you are saying is it doesn’t matter if you are a member of Bishop Vicky Gene Robinson’s church. It’s all ok, because he and his members form the true church.
“Do you, JCBrekenridge, believe the Jesus is the Son of God and that He suffered, died, was buried and rose again in payment of your sins, and have you accepted that atonement for your sins. Have you made Jesus YOUR Savior?”
I can no more make him my saviour than I can make my father my father. He IS my saviour and has always been my saviour. I can only acknowledge that which is true. He suffered and died and redeemed all of us from the Cross.
“If so, then we are brothers in Christ no matter what church you attend. If not you need to get saved, hell is too hot and eternity lasts too long to play around with this.”
That was what I was asking. I know I have a somewhat flippant tone - but this is a crucial question.
Now I have one for you - what do you think of the Nicene Creed? This is where your formula originates.
“The bible never once asks what church”
Nonsense. The Bible explicitly states that Christ built his Church to proclaim the gospel to all nations.
“with trivial and unimportant questions”
It’s not trivial. That’s my point. Visible Christian unity is very, very important, even more so given folks like Vicky Gene Robinson.
We need all the faithful Christians who remain true to Christs teachings in unity with one another and not with Vicky.
It’s not about ‘making the world a better place’. This world is doomed. The boat is sinking and we have to swim.
Excellent! You nailed it and I appreciate that post. Thank you.
Now, are those faggot priests who molested all those kids Catholics? or have they turned their back on God and the church they supposedly belonged to and excommunicated themselves?
So if you can tar all protestants with a faggot non-Christian, then you can be tarred with those faggot child molestors.
Never addressed by the recipient of your post, I see......
Excellent points. Thank you.