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To: detective

We fought in Russia, we fought in China, and we fought in Vietnam, we fought in Korea, and all over the world.

We did defeat the Soviet Union over a 75 year period regardless of what you think, and it cost us dearly.


21 posted on 06/15/2013 7:16:58 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: ansel12

You imply no Catholics in the American armed forces from 1917-1992?

That argument can’t be grounded in reality.


49 posted on 06/15/2013 10:16:49 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: ansel12
“We did defeat the Soviet Union over a 75 year period”

During the 75 year period you discuss the politicians in the U.S. were supporting the former Soviet Union most of the time either openly or covertly.

The Communist government was bankrupt and its economy had failed so badly it was on the brink of collapse when the FDR Administration recognized the former Soviet Union and began supporting it in 1933. FDR's Administration was pro Soviet.

The Soviet military received the atomic bomb, the MIG jet and most of their technology from the United States. Communists in the American government assured that. The Truman Administration facilitated the expansion of the Soviet Union into Eastern Europe and helped the Communists take over China. Truman admired Stalin and compared him to Tom Pendergast the Kansas City criminal and Democrat boss who was Truman's mentor and father figure and who took Truman from a failed and bankrupt storekeeper to a politician and eventually Senator.

The Truman Administration worked with the communists to take over South Korea and hopefully eventually Japan. When MacArthur's outnumbered, underequiped army defeated them with minimal casualties MacArhur was fired and the army was left to fight under rules of engagement that assured heavy casualties and no victory. Truman was about to surrender South Korea through negotiations when he left the presidency.

The U.S. State Department facilitated Castro's rise in Cuba and murdered South Vietnamese President Diem who had defeated the Communists. The Americans then undermined the governments of South Vietnam and worked to get the U.S. to unconditionally surrender. After Nixon carpet bombed North Vietnam to finally get a truce the U.S. government withdrew all support for South Vietnam and allowed the North Vietnamese to win.

The U.S. propped up the failed Soviet economy throughout the 1970’s. The Carter Administration helped the communists win victory after victory from central America to Afghanistan.

Only when Reagan became president did the U.S. begin to oppose the Communism and the Soviet evil empire. Reagan, Thatcher and Pope John Paul defeated the Communists. Most U.S. politicians tried to undermine Reagan and sabotage his efforts.

The whole 75 year war you speak of simply never existed.

55 posted on 06/16/2013 2:05:06 AM PDT by detective
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