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The Man Who Forced Prayer Out of Schools, 50 Years Later
First Things ^ | 6/18/13 | Katherine Infantine

Posted on 06/19/2013 6:37:38 AM PDT by marshmallow

Ellery Schempp, at 16 years of age in 1956, stayed in his seat while the rest of his high school class stood to recite the Lord’s prayer; he flipped through the Koran while his homeroom teacher recited ten verses from the Bible. What began as a quite protest in his Philadelphia high school became Supreme Court case Abington v. Schempp, which declared Bible readings and prayer in public schools unconstitutional.

“A sense of fairness motivated the teen. He knew his Jewish friends were uncomfortable and believed the same must be true for other religious minorities and non-believers,” and his parents backed his idea.

“I was touched by the children here,” said Schempp recently after watching a fifty-year anniversary skit performed by 4-13-year-olds, reenacting his classroom protest. “First of all, I noticed that they didn’t know the Lord’s Prayer. You can blame me for that.” Today, Schempp is a Unitarian and self-proclaimed atheist and secular humanist.

Whether or not the children know Schempp by name, they certainly live with his legacy. When told, “Back in those days, we read the Bible in school,” one child who now attends Schempp’s former high school immediately replied, “They can’t do that. It’s against the Constitution.”

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To: marshmallow

One would expect perfect spelling by a professional writer. That’s why I was surprised by “quite protest.” It’s “quiet protest.”


21 posted on 06/19/2013 7:27:53 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: marshmallow

A Jew reading the Koran so that he doesn’t have to recite the Lord’s Prayer? This is why Acirema exists today.


22 posted on 06/19/2013 7:31:49 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: circlecity

No. He’s just close to it.


23 posted on 06/19/2013 7:57:34 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: circlecity
"If he's a Unitarian then he's not an atheist and vice versa."

I was wondering the same thing so I looked it up. Found this on a Unitarian Universalist website....

"Unitarian Universalism is a liberal religion that encompasses many faith traditions. Unitarian Universalists include people who identify as Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Pagans, Atheists, Agnostics, Human ists, and others. As there is no official Unitarian Universa list creed, Unitarian Universalists are free to search for truthon many paths."
Sounds to me like they are so liberal that they each believe whatever they want to believe, but at the same time seek acceptance by a "congregation" of peers and those in the general community who do not understand that Unitarians are NOT Christians and not necessarily even believers in the God of the Holy Bible.
24 posted on 06/19/2013 7:59:19 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: Da Coyote
You bring up a good point. If CWII happens, expect the mad mullahs to go nuts (well...more than usual) in Europe and against Israel.

Also CWII related, I expect our troops overseas, you know, the ones that take their oath seriously, to be left overseas and to be cut off from support.

25 posted on 06/19/2013 8:03:52 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: marshmallow

**Today, Schempp is a Unitarian and self-proclaimed atheist and secular humanist.**

And God will be the judge.

While we are alive, Christ is perfect mercy. At the moment of our death, Christ becomes perfect justice.

Just thinking of the reparations (toward all this has affected) is mind-boggling. (If that’s the way the Lord judges!)


26 posted on 06/19/2013 8:08:09 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RJS1950

Catholics were in Florida long before this — just one example.


27 posted on 06/19/2013 8:10:42 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

Under this definition it is meaningless - it is nothing more than a social club. I love this line: “Unitarian Universalists are free to search for truthon many paths.” Based on the description you provided they clearly don’t believe in objective truth at all so how can they “search for” it?


28 posted on 06/19/2013 8:11:55 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: fwdude

Great graphs/charts.


29 posted on 06/19/2013 8:13:22 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RJS1950
The Mayflower compact is what is usually considered the beginning of constitutional self government. And they were not Puritans, but separatist Pilgrims, and as you said others.
30 posted on 06/19/2013 8:17:08 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Theodore R.
The Koran, doesn’t GWB read that too?

Thomas Jefferson did...then he sent in the Marines.

31 posted on 06/19/2013 8:20:05 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Salvation
Great graphs/charts.

Yes. The correlation is revealing, isn't it?

32 posted on 06/19/2013 8:24:22 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: marshmallow; All
I do not find it any mere consequence of simultaneously events of fruition that resulted in events that harmed this country. It was not stated what time the case came up to the Supreme Court ruling in the article. So I looked it up. It was 1963. The year our president was shot and killed. I do not see this as just a mere coincede.

I also remember the year before. 1962. There were cases taking out God's name from public school. Also remember we almost blew up the human race in the fall of 1962. The Cuban missile crisis. I was born that year. I remember my mother telling me how they all were praying when president Kennedy told the nation finally. She was in special prayer groups. Which by the way is the best thing he did. It brought every God fearing prayers into real heart felt action to save our existence. If you see the movie Thirteen days. You will see a scene were the Churches were bursting at the seems when the advisor of the president himself goes to Church. All of sudden you had a revival for God. But did we learn from this? No . The following year we took more of God out of the schools then Kennedy was shot.

I only saw this in Ny right after 9-11. The church's and Jewish temple doors were jammed open to show everyone they were welcomed. Then more people going in to church. Days after.

Also remember the upheaval that was the sixties that brought these radical ideas to the world.

33 posted on 06/19/2013 8:24:29 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: fwdude

Especially with the crime, STD — and for this thread — the number of unwed mothers.


34 posted on 06/19/2013 8:42:40 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: fwdude

Oops, my mistake, I thought for a moment we were on the Life vs true marriage thread.


35 posted on 06/19/2013 8:43:59 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SMARTY

Nonsense.

Islam doesn’t belong there, and it should be forced out like it forced Christianity, zoroastrianism, judaism etc out of the nations the muslims conquered.

And even if islam had sprung out of the ground instead of arrived by conquest and oppression it should still be wiped from the planet simply because it is as evil an ideology as national socialism.


36 posted on 06/19/2013 8:47:56 AM PDT by LastNorwegian
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To: johngrace

No movie rating system was needed before the mid-sixties.


37 posted on 06/19/2013 8:49:01 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

Did you see the new superman movie. I saw it yesterday. The words appropriate are in big letters for the new rating system before the movie starts. I never saw that changed since I was a kid. I thought that was very interesting to say the least.


38 posted on 06/19/2013 9:01:55 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: verga

I don’t know any homeschoolers crying for *religiously neutral*.

There’s no such thing.


39 posted on 06/19/2013 9:19:14 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: marshmallow

The Supreme Court was so liberal in 1963 our country is lucky we survived it.There must be a lesson here.


40 posted on 06/19/2013 9:40:43 AM PDT by ardara
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