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To: Alex Murphy

“Who really placed the black mark on the church - the senior man who lied (and refuses to repent), or the junior men who called him on it?”

I’m certainly reminded of the Jewish religious leaders ready to stone an adulteress in the public square. The woman sinned, sure... but what was worse was the readiness of the accusers in their desire to kill her for punishment, without holding themselves to the same standard.

As I suggested before, imagine if a falsehood you told long ago was on tape and you had critics (from all sides) bring it up constantly until a “just punishment” was issued, when in fact you may have already sought forgiveness, got peace from God, learned from it, and moved on.

Is God in the business of haunting people? Or does that sound more like someone else?

As for Muslims, I hate to break it to ya but they are going to distrust Christians whether they’re of “high integrity”, liars, or otherwise. What matters most is Caner’s relationship with God and if that has remained in tact. If you think they’re have high character themselves, as the Koran says it’s okay to lie to an “infidel”.

The folks at Arlington Baptist College are not fools. I’d imagine they did their homework before bringing him on, including checking with those who keep Caner accountable.

Why does Caner owe you or any other accuser an explanation?


12 posted on 06/20/2013 9:00:49 PM PDT by AskNotReceiveNot
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I’m certainly reminded of the Jewish religious leaders ready to stone an adulteress in the public square. The woman sinned, sure... but what was worse was the readiness of the accusers in their desire to kill her for punishment, without holding themselves to the same standard.

No, what was worse was that her accusers, who caught her in the very act of adultery, didn't simultaneously hold her partner to that same standard. The scriptures tell us that she was caught in the act. Two were guilty. And yet her accusers were playing favorites by allowing one of them to go free, and were caught trying to trick Jesus into doing the same.

As I suggested before, imagine if a falsehood you told long ago was on tape and you had critics (from all sides) bring it up constantly until a “just punishment” was issued, when in fact you may have already sought forgiveness, got peace from God, learned from it, and moved on.

One of the lessons we're learning from the Caner case is that Caner has not "sought forgiveness" from those he has wronged. Who has he wronged? Anyone who paid him a fee for giving a testimony about how he was a terrorist-turned-Christian. Did he return their monies? Did he make a public confession in the same way, to the same audiences, as he gave a public testimony earlier?

Is God in the business of haunting people?

Yes - it's called conviction of sin. I believe that God haunts sinners. John Donne, author of The Hound of Heaven, also believes that.

What matters most is Caner’s relationship with God and if that has remained intact. If you think they’re have high character themselves, as the Koran says it’s okay to lie to an “infidel”.

Ergun claims to have been a Muslim. Later in his life, Caner lied to Christians about the circumstances of his conversion. Does Caner believe that Christians are infidels?

The folks at Arlington Baptist College are not fools. I’d imagine they did their homework before bringing him on, including checking with those who keep Caner accountable.

I would hope so. I would feel better if they released a statement to that effect. I can tell you that I would never send a son or daughter to their school, until they do so. I'd feel better still, if Caner publicly recanted and repented of his false testimony.

Why does Caner owe you or any other accuser an explanation?

As a professing Christian, Caner owes people a true testimony re his faith. Caner hasn't provided that to date. How can we tell the difference between truth and lie, when Caner insists that all is truth? What shall we conclude about his faith?

13 posted on 06/20/2013 9:57:23 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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