Posted on 06/20/2013 2:39:32 PM PDT by NYer
.- Pope Francis stressed that it's false to think our enemies “must go to hell” during his daily Mass at the Vatican's Saint Martha House June 20.
“You cannot pray with enemies in your heart,” he said June 20. “With (both) brothers and enemies in your heart, you cannot pray.”
“They must go to hell, right? I will have nothing to do with them!” the Bishop of Rome said sarcastically.
The Pope told how Jesus noted, “if we do not forgive others, neither will the Father forgive us our sins.”
“It’s so hard to forgive others, it is really difficult because we always have that regret inside,” he said.
“We think ‘you did this to me, you wait … I’ll repay him the favor.'”
Pope Francis gave his homily based on the day’s Gospel, which tells how Jesus taught his disciples to pray the ‘Our Father.”
“We have a father very close to us, who embraces us,” the Roman pontiff said.
“All these worries, concerns that we have, let's leave them to the Father; he knows what we need.”
“But Father, what? My father?”
“No, our Father!” he exclaimed. “Because I am not an only child, none of us are, and if I cannot be a brother, I can hardly become a child of the Father, because he is a father to all.”
Pope Francis underscored that if we are not “at peace with my brothers, I cannot say ‘Father’ to him.”
Saying “Father, I have sinned” is “the key of every prayer, to feel loved by a father,” he reflected.
“Jesus immediately gives us a piece of advice in prayer: ‘in praying, do not babble,’ do not make worldly noises, vain noises.”
Pope Francis explained that Jesus teaches us not to turn to God with “so many words” because “he knows everything.”
“And he warned that prayer is not a magical thing – there is no magic with prayer.”
The Bishop of Rome noted “someone once told me that when he went to a witch doctor they said a lot of words to heal him, but that is pagan.”
“You must pray to him who generated you, who gave you life,” Pope Francis said.
“Not to everyone – everyone is too anonymous.”
“To whom do I pray, to a cosmic God?” he asked.
Praying to a 'cosmic God' is a polytheistic model that comes from “a rather light culture,” and is too impersonal.
“To whom do I pray, to the almighty God? He is too far off, ah, I can’t hear him. Neither did Jesus.”
“You must pray to the Father,” Pope Francis affirmed.
“The first” word is Father and it is “the key” to prayer.
He stressed that “without saying, without feeling that word, you cannot pray.”
“Jesus has promised us the Holy Spirit, it is he who teaches us from within, from the heart, how to say ‘Father’ and how to say ‘our.'”
Ping!
So is it still wrong for me to wish they would? Do I have to go to confession for that?
Hmm. Is he going to argue that there’s a chance that Osama bin Laden ended up anywhere else?
I wish people would get their earthly punishments, but now that we no longer have a justice system, they don’t.
But as for eternity, who knows? Maybe they repented at the last moment, maybe from eternity they will do some good in penance. That’s why Catholics always prayed for the souls in Purgatory, because people who were neither damned nor on the fast track to Heaven were always considered to be powerful and able to help us here because they were trying to work out their own repentance.
Here is your escort to the confessional ...
The Vatican has enemies? That’s different.
Hmm. Is he going to argue that there’s a chance that Osama bin Laden ended up anywhere else?
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Whether or not that chance exists is a matter between bin Laden and God.
Lol!
Hate is someone letting their dog shit in your driveway and then pushing your nose in it. You HATE them for it!
The same applies for someone who takes your freedoms and lifetime savings along with making you live in the Bizzarro world of illegal aliens, criminals, queers and child molesters and others who have become a protected species in the name of Political Correctness.
Yes.............hate is real and wishing damnation on those who have done you wrong is appropriate.
What a fool!
Here is my interpretation of this sermon:
Perhaps this is part of his message:
Subtle undertones about different cultures around the world where the people profess to be “Catholic” or “Christian” yet they maintain pagan rituals that may include “cursing” others. (Cursing can mean wishing physical harm or eternal damnation.)
Remember the Pope’s background and his upbringing and how this may have shaped his worldview beyond the walls of the Vatican.
I take it you are not a christian. (Matt. 22:17-21
Yep, I had her in second grade, Sister Mary Rapanuckle. And of course there was Monsignor Ripyourearoff!
He is 100% correct. From now on, I’ll wish them to go to Detroit, or maybe New Jersey.
“Whether or not that chance exists is a matter between bin Laden and God.”
God pretty well ruled that out. Bin Laden is in hell.
Joh_14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Okay.
So you know what is held between another person and God at the moment of that person’s death.
I don’t.
“So you know what is held between another person and God at the moment of that person’s death.
I don’t.”
I imagine it was the bullet passing through his brain right then.
I’m sure that for most people it is wrong to think your enemies are going to hell. However, it is a certain that MY enemies are, in fact, Hell bound. That is just the way it is.
You’re just itchin’ for a fight, aren’t you?
:-)
Ain’t bitin’.
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