wish we’d all heard more homilies on what a gift liberty is and that it requires sober responsibility to protect instead of all those ones I heard about how America is “too individualist” how much “the rich owe to the poor” etc etc.
Not just for Catholics. I guess we’re beginning to learn that even if morality can’t be “legislated” (a shaky argument at best), immorality assuredly can be. But Might Makes Right, wrong-headed and unpopular even in liberal environments though it is, thrives in this so-called enlightened culture. Bring back classical philosophy, oh, academe!
praying for the day when more church-goers take an interest in what their state legislatures are doing.
Those Christians who refuse to govern themselves will be ruled by evil men.
Who or what is the arbiter of that?
Actually, they are superior in their own area. The Church (Pope) is superior in things spiritual and the State (King or Govt) is superior in things temporal.
This subject was explained quite successfully by St. Robert Bellarmine and Francisco Suarez in the early 1600s when they responded to James I's claim that he had a divine right to force the Catholics to swear allegiance to him because of his "spiritual" superiority.
The Church was given her command by Jesus Himself, whereas the king receives his authority from man and not God. Therefore, the Church is superior in the spiritual realm and the king has no divine right to rule.
Bellarmine made another very interesting point which was quite novel at the time: If the Pope is superior in things spiritual and the king is superior in things temporal, then the Pope has indirect spiritual authority over the king in things spiritual. So, each has primary authority but in different arenas.
A sure mark of the ascendancy of the state over the Church is when immorality is given the protection of the law. From that point .. the next step is the outlawing of what is moral....
....the Church does NOT automatically see the state as an enemy. It recognizes that the need for a state is self-evident roads must be paved, order established among quarreling parties, criminals punished, etc. Everything that bears in mind that the final end of man is Heaven and constructs a society where this end is best able to be encouraged. In short the common good must be given an environment in which it can flourish. And the Church has worked with various forms of government over the millennia to achieve the common good. But this has happened effectively ONLY when it is recognized that the state is at the service the Church which hands on the objectively moral standards and truths about man which the Church is ALSO at the service of.
When the state regresses to a point where it assumes an attitude of superiority over the Church then its Nellie bar the doors. America has passed a point of no return .. because too many have handed over to the state a false decision making power in the area of morality. Having done this, the state will re- define liberty and freedom and reduce it to little else than a historical footnote. And all this because God and His laws were rejected. The nation as a nation is beyond salvation.
Ping for later.