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Church of England creating 'pagan church' to recruit members
The Telegraph ^ | 6/21/2013 | Radhika Sanghani

Posted on 06/21/2013 3:19:00 AM PDT by markomalley

The church is training ministers to create “a pagan church where Christianity [is] very much in the centre” to attract spiritual believers.

Ministers are being trained to create new forms of Anglicanism suitable for people of alternative beliefs as part of a Church of England drive to retain congregation numbers.

Reverend Steve Hollinghurst, a researcher and adviser in new religious movements told the BBC: “I would be looking to formulate an exploration of the Christian faith that would be at home in their culture.”

He said it would be “almost to create a pagan church where Christianity was very much in the centre.”

The Church Mission Society, which is training ministers to “break new ground”, hopes to see a number of spiritual people align themselves with Christianity.

Andrea Campenale, of the Church Mission Society, said: “Nowadays people, they want to feel something; they want to have some sense of experience.

“We live in reflective England where there’s much more of a focus on ourselves. I think that is something we can bring in dialogue with the Christian society.”

The Church Mission Society’s webpage advertising their pioneer training scheme states: “Wherever in the world the mission of Jesus goes on, the church needs pioneer mission leaders to break new ground.”

The news comes as spiritual seekers celebrate the summer solstice at Stonehenge today.

Pagans and druids will gather to watch the sun rise following the longest day of the year, celebrating at the historic monument.

The new move could see famous druids such as druid leader Arthur Pendragon move to Anglicanism.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: anglican; arthurpendragon; babylon; coe; europeanchristians; europeanunion; pagans; unitedkingdom
Church of England creating 'pagan church' to recruit members

Funny, I thought that the CofE had already converted to paganism.

“We live in reflective England where there’s much more of a focus on ourselves. I think that is something we can bring in dialogue with the Christian society.”

Let's see if I've got this right: society is more egocentric and narcissistic. So let's move to make "Christianity" more egocentric and narcissistic.

Alrighty...

1 posted on 06/21/2013 3:19:00 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Not too surprising since its founder was a morally bankrupt murderer.


2 posted on 06/21/2013 3:20:55 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: markomalley

If they bring back sacrifices and those crazy-cool, long monk robes with hoods, they might be on to something there. /sarc


3 posted on 06/21/2013 3:22:38 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 3Fingas

Yeah they can add Satanism into the mix to be fair while they’re at it.../s


4 posted on 06/21/2013 3:26:28 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

5 posted on 06/21/2013 3:31:07 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: markomalley

The Church of England is a pagan church. No need to “create” one.


6 posted on 06/21/2013 3:32:01 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: markomalley

Rome’s got a 1500 year lead on them in that department. Isn’t CoE merging with Catholicism? That would save time and effort.


7 posted on 06/21/2013 3:32:28 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: markomalley

“Inclusion” and “reaching out” are all very well, but there is only so far you can go...


8 posted on 06/21/2013 3:38:44 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: markomalley

It’s not like the Apostle Paul didn’t warn us this was going to happen.


9 posted on 06/21/2013 3:47:05 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: markomalley
Vatican II who-do.

Seeker friendly (c)hurch.

Pope Francis meets Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby in Rome
Friday 14 June 2013
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/pope-francis-meets-archbishop-of-canterbury-justin-welby-in-rome-8659481.html

10 posted on 06/21/2013 3:47:22 AM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: 3Fingas
Monk robes? Not that there's anything wrong with that, lol.
11 posted on 06/21/2013 4:00:27 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Alternatively, empty churches and cathedrals could be turned over for use as mosques.

Thanks markomalley.


12 posted on 06/21/2013 4:04:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I think they could be quite fashionable, don’t you?


13 posted on 06/21/2013 4:06:34 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: markomalley

>>“We live in reflective England where there’s much more of a focus on ourselves. I think that is something we can bring in dialogue with the Christian society.”

Do they even bother to read the Bible before they say stupid things like this?


14 posted on 06/21/2013 4:26:09 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92
Do they even bother to read the Bible before they say stupid things like this?

The Bible? The Church of Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee doesn't need no stinking Bible! </sarc>

15 posted on 06/21/2013 4:37:30 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

“suitable for people of alternative beliefs”

These people are so un-Christian it hurts.


16 posted on 06/21/2013 4:38:51 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: RegulatorCountry
>>>Rome’s got a 1500 year lead on them in that department.

I was just about to post something along the same lines. Constantine and Theodosius already saw to it in the 4th Century. They fundementally changed the nature of the Church in order to attract pagans and keep peace in the empire...

So not much difference.

17 posted on 06/21/2013 4:45:17 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: markomalley

The Church of England long ago transformed itself into the Church of the Devil.


18 posted on 06/21/2013 5:11:12 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Can’t say that here, you’ll offend too many people who don’t think that the Rome religion is a cult.


19 posted on 06/21/2013 7:10:21 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: markomalley

Why does the media have to humor an idiot who names himself Arthur Pendragon?


20 posted on 06/21/2013 7:39:09 AM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: markomalley
The new move could see famous druids such as druid leader Arthur Pendragon move to Anglicanism.

Why not??? Or maybe Catholocism...Or maybe Mormonism...Or Islamism for that matter...

Heaven forbid that anyone would move to Christianity...

There's a highway going to these religions...The route leading to Christianity is like an alley, or a sidewalk...Most religious people walk right by it...But then Jesus told us that, didn't he...

21 posted on 06/21/2013 12:12:33 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Who’s the guy in the orange, their pope???


22 posted on 06/21/2013 12:13:28 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: markomalley

The CoE needs to learn how well syncretism turned out for Solomon and Israel-

1 Kings 11


23 posted on 06/21/2013 2:55:00 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: markomalley

We are truly racing towards the end of this age.


24 posted on 06/21/2013 5:49:22 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: NELSON111; RegulatorCountry
Actually, Constantine was of the Arian, not the Catholic persuasion. He himself didn't try to impose Arianism, though. The Council of Nicaea (which he convened) taught decisively against the Arian heresy--- against Constantine's wishes, though he apparently respected their liberty to do so.

Constantine did de-criminalize Christianity, though, through his Edict of Toleration, which is one of the forerunners of the First Amendment and the freedoms of religious non-establishment and free exercise in the USA.

I respect that.

25 posted on 06/21/2013 6:24:00 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If they refuse to listen even to the Church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The Netherlands and to an extent Switzerland were the positive foreign influences upon Constitutional disestablishment of a State Church, as well as colonial Rhode Island. There was some admiration expressed for Cicero, so Roman influence was not altogether absent. There was also the short-lived tolerance of the Palatinate of Maryland. I've seen no influence attributed or reference to Constantine among the Founders, however. He was an emperor, ruling an empire. Not a republican by any means.
26 posted on 06/22/2013 2:10:33 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
But of course. Constantine was not a Republican. But he disestablished paganism and tolerated religious liberty for Christians and others within his Empire. Our Founding Fathers, deep drinkers from many fountains of learning, were not insensible of the civic and religious significance of the Edict of Toleration.

Our religious liberty has a number of roots. This was a deep one.

By Jove! :o)

27 posted on 06/22/2013 4:13:28 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If they refuse to listen even to the Church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I've witnessed an attempt to Catholicize the Founders here on FR for a number of years, and while it's certainly refreshing to see a belated embrace of religious freedom from these quarters and thus in some ways is to be encouraged, in actuality Catholicism condemned religious freedom, from the foundation of this nation right up to Vatican II, the very same Vatican II for which there is most often condemnation among the very Catholic FReepers who seek to Catholicize the religious freedom enshrined Constitutionally. So, forgive me for perceiving more than just a small amount of cognitive dissonance being created by such an effort, among those who actually know and understand US history at least.
28 posted on 06/22/2013 4:31:10 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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