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To: James C. Bennett

That’s not what I stated. You must understand the difference between ‘natural evil’ and ‘human evil’. Human evil is very easy to explain. When a women has a ‘doctor’ kill her baby inside the womb, that is human evil. The woman has decided to take an evil action, and the ‘doctor’ has carried out a paid murder.
In this instance, as I see it (although other Christians may disagree), whatever purpose such a child might have had was indeed prevented by the evil of another person. This is free will, which I’m sure you understand. We would not want to be puppets, and God would have no use for such creatures anyway.

Natural evil, is a tougher subject, because no entity of this earth causes a hurricane, or a spontaneous miscarriage, yet these things are hideously destructive to human life. Now, there are two theories among theologians and philosophers with regard to natural evil.

A) Natural evil is the product of a fallen world. It is perfectly possible that we have to live in a harsh world, in order for God’s purpose to be fulfilled. Some speculate that these things are the machinations of Satan. Personally, I don’t really buy into that. I just think these things naturally occur in a fallen world.

B) Every event that occurs naturally in our environment has a reason for its occurrence. Nothing is random, there are no coincidences. I’m sure you’ve heard the old analogy about the butterfly’s wings and the tornado, a key part of chaos theory. Small, seemingly insignificant events now, could have massive ramifications in the future. Who would have thought that a wrong turn by a driver in Austria-Hungary would eventually lead to the rise of Hitler, the Russian revolution, a lot of the current turmoil around the world, all knock-on effects of that spark that caused WWI?
Like I said, you and I are finite entities. Our lifespans are insignificant on this planet. We also do not transcend the universe, so we have no way of seeing the future. You might see a butterfly go past your window. How would you know that this might, through chain reaction, lead to just the right conditions for a cyclone off the coast of Fiji 100 years from now? You wouldn’t.

You have not addressed the point that if the world with God is a “fantasy”, then we really have no reason to give a hoot if a baby dies naturally, or by the hand of an abortion doctor.


23 posted on 06/23/2013 8:37:34 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

If our lives and our awareness of our existence is all we have, then the value of life is magnified by its scarcity. Things that are limited in quantity are also the ones that become invaluable. So, if life is all you have, and death is certain, won’t you work your best to beautify it, to have others help you beautify it, and promote reciprocity? Evolutionarily and logically, promoting this benefits you.

A god that creates a child to be born dead where its death goes unnoticed, is a failed god for indulging in a purposeless creation. You haven’t really explained this problem that your belief has to square with.


25 posted on 06/23/2013 8:46:39 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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