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Jimmy Carter: Failure Of Catholic Church To Ordain Women Is A Human Rights Abuse
Acts of the Apostasy ^ | 6/23/2013

Posted on 06/23/2013 6:13:23 PM PDT by markomalley

It’s not news when irrelevant people spout irrational opinions, because it happens nearly all the time, but hey – it’s been a slow day.

From Swampland:

Let’s get right to it. This week the Carter Center’s Mobilizing Faith for Women conference will ask the question, “Can religion be a force for women’s rights instead of a source of women’s oppression?” What’s your answer?

Well, religion can be, and I think there’s a slow, very slow, move around the world to give women equal rights in the eyes of God. What has been the case for many centuries is that the great religions, the major religions, have discriminated against women in a very abusive fashion and set an example for the rest of society to treat women as secondary citizens. In a marriage or in the workplace or wherever, they are discriminated against. And I think the great religions have set the example for that, by ordaining, in effect, that women are not equal to men in the eyes of God.

This has been done and still is done by the Catholic Church ever since the third century, when the Catholic Church ordained that a woman cannot be a priest for instance but a man can. A woman can be a nurse or a teacher but she can’t be a priest. This is wrong, I think. As you may or may not know, the Southern Baptist Convention back now about 13 years ago in Orlando, voted that women were inferior and had to be subservient to their husbands, and ordained that a woman could not be a deacon or a pastor or a chaplain or even a teacher in a classroom in some seminaries where men are in the classroom, boys are in the classroom. So my wife and I withdrew from the Southern Baptist Convention primarily because of that…

In the Islamic world that varies widely depending on what the regime is in the capital. Sometimes they try to impose very strict law, misquoting I think the major points of the Qur’an, and they ordain that a woman is inferior inherently. Ten year old girls can be forced to marry against their wishes, and that women can be treated as slaves in a marriage, and that a woman can’t drive an automobile, some countries don’t let women vote, like Saudi Arabia.

Yeah, the Catholic Church is just like the Islam religion in how women are treated. Practically indistinguishable.  And in case he was unclear, later in the interview, Jimmy mentions the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

How can mobilizing religious communities for women’s rights produce results?

To repeat myself in a way, I think that what the major religious leaders say is used by others who discriminate against women as justification for their human rights abuse. For instance if an employer, who might be otherwise enlightened, if he is a religious person and he sees that, he might be a Catholic, and a Catholic does not let women be priests, then why should he pay his women employees an equal pay [as men]?

In the United States that prevails all over. We have an average now of about 70% that a woman earns compared to a 100% that a man earns for doing the same job. And very few of the corporate boards have I think 50% women. Very few of them. And of course we have a very few percentage of women in our House of Representatives and in our Senate. We never yet had a woman president, but I think that’s going to come in the near future. But I think in general terms this is a very derogating thing.

It is much worse in some of the third world countries where genital cutting is condoned and girls are forced to marry when they are as young as 8 or 10 years old and they have no voice in who their husband might be or when they get married. And you see the extreme case with Al Qaeda and particularly with the Taliban in Afghanistan. So these are the kind of things that permeate society in a very general way and it afflicts almost every single community in America and almost throughout the world. There is a sense that women are not quite equal to men both politically and economically and in religious terms.

I love Jimmy’s logic here: since the Church doesn’t ordain women, then Catholic employers will feel it’s okay to pay female employees less. Never mind that Catholic priests earn less than anybody else in the Church – that makes too much sense. Then again, Jimmy rarely made sense anyway.

I suppose I should give him credit for acknowledging that genital cutting is worse than the Catholic Church not ordaining women. Of course genital cutting is worse, but in his mind – and in the minds of so many people who think like him – it’s only worse in degree, but not in kind.

Hey Jimmy! How come it’s bad to refuse women their choice to be a womynpreest, but it’s great to give them the choice to abort their unborn daughters?  ‘Splain that justice for me!


TOPICS: Catholic; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: anticatholicbigotry; carter; jimmycarter
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1 posted on 06/23/2013 6:13:23 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Jimmy Carter. Baptist. Nuff Ced.


2 posted on 06/23/2013 6:15:36 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: markomalley

Just a senile old liberal,offering up his opinion when not asked.He can’t possibly last much longer.


3 posted on 06/23/2013 6:16:00 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Hey!There’s nothing wrong with Baptists.
There’s a whole lot wrong with Carter.


4 posted on 06/23/2013 6:17:25 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: markomalley

this makes me think he is trying to retain the title of worst president ever


5 posted on 06/23/2013 6:17:38 PM PDT by bigheadfred (barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: markomalley

**I love Jimmy’s logic here: since the Church doesn’t ordain women, then Catholic employers will feel it’s okay to pay female employees less. Never mind that Catholic priests earn less than anybody else in the Church – that makes too much sense. Then again, Jimmy rarely made sense anyway**

LOL! at old Jimmy.


6 posted on 06/23/2013 6:18:23 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: markomalley

Too bad the good Carter brother died young.


7 posted on 06/23/2013 6:18:24 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: markomalley

Where does this man hide in between the times he pops up to spouse idiocy?


8 posted on 06/23/2013 6:18:31 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Farmer Dean

Baptists shouldn’t presume to tell Catholics how to run our Church.


9 posted on 06/23/2013 6:18:55 PM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: markomalley
The entire Jimmy Carter Presidency was a human rights abuse to those who were taken hostage in Iran for 444 days during his disastrous "Presidency."

I'd be a happy man if I were to wake up tomorrow morning and learned the worthless POC finally died of liver disease.

10 posted on 06/23/2013 6:18:57 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: markomalley

Failure to abort after 20 weeks, too.


11 posted on 06/23/2013 6:18:59 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Arguing with a marxist is like playing Chess with a Pigeon.)
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To: markomalley

Jimmy’s a hater, which is why he thinks that everybody else is.


12 posted on 06/23/2013 6:19:28 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Religious faith in government is far crazier than religious faith in God.)
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To: usconservative

Hillary Flammond: My uncle was born in America.
Nick Rivers: Oh, really?
Hillary Flammond: But he was one of the lucky ones. He managed to escape in a balloon during the Jimmy Carter presidency.

-Top Secret!


13 posted on 06/23/2013 6:20:14 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: markomalley

Such a nosey old coot venturing where angels fear to tread. Roslynne is the more sane one.


14 posted on 06/23/2013 6:20:17 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: schm0e

Carter doesn’t speak for Baptists.He babbles all on his own.


15 posted on 06/23/2013 6:20:21 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Farmer Dean

-— Hey!There’s nothing wrong with Baptists. There’s a whole lot wrong with Carter. ——

Don’t worry. I’m not holding him against you. His real religion is progressivism, just like Pelosi, et. al.


16 posted on 06/23/2013 6:20:22 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: bigheadfred

Hey he couldn’t keep quiet once 0 declared Catholic schools divisive.


17 posted on 06/23/2013 6:20:24 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Farmer Dean; big'ol_freeper
Jimmuh Cahtah left the Southern Baptist Convention back in 2009.

Per ABC

Former President Carter, a longtime Sunday school teacher, is walking away from the Southern Baptists because of the church’s stance on equality for women.

In an interview with the Atlanta Journal-Constitution published today, Carter says Southern Baptist leaders reading the Bible out of context led to the adoption of increasingly “rigid” views.

“I’m familiar with the verses they have quoted about wives being subjugated to their husbands,” he told the paper. “In my opinion, this is a distortion of the meaning of Scripture. … I personally feel the Bible says all people are equal in the eyes of God. I personally feel that women should play an absolutely equal role in service of Christ in the church.”

So, yeah, don't blame the Baptists for him.

18 posted on 06/23/2013 6:20:58 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
I'm reminded of a scene from Star Trek (original) where Spock is asked about the possibility of mind-melding with McCoy.

His response contains the phrase "torrential flood of illogic."
19 posted on 06/23/2013 6:21:04 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: markomalley

Carter is trying to maintain his claim to the worst president ever.


20 posted on 06/23/2013 6:21:13 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: markomalley

I guess the next step is to say that Christ was a women rights abuser because He didn’t have any women Apostles.


21 posted on 06/23/2013 6:21:34 PM PDT by teacherwoes (this tagline has been approved by the NSA)
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To: Farmer Dean

To be fair, Jimmy is affiliated with the “Cooperative Baptist Fellowship”. This organization was created in 1991; it separated from the Southern Baptist Convention over, among other things, the SBC’s refusal to ordain women. So the Georgia Dingbat is at least being consistent.


22 posted on 06/23/2013 6:21:44 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: shibumi
I'm reminded of a scene from Star Trek (original) where Spock is asked about the possibility of mind-melding with McCoy.

Today's Spock would respond, "Fabulous!"

23 posted on 06/23/2013 6:22:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Farmer Dean

Carter, as a non-Catholic, shouldn’t presume to tell Catholics how to run our Church. WTF concern is it of his? If he’s happy as a Baptist, and the Baptists are doing it right, why can’t he just be happy as a Baptist?


24 posted on 06/23/2013 6:22:06 PM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: xp38

so it is a battle to see which one can out stupid the other-—grrrrreat


25 posted on 06/23/2013 6:22:06 PM PDT by bigheadfred (barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: xp38
Hey he couldn’t keep quiet once 0 declared Catholic schools divisive.

They certainly are united in their disrespect for the Church, aren't they?

26 posted on 06/23/2013 6:23:10 PM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: markomalley

Catholic Church is definitely in the cross hairs.


27 posted on 06/23/2013 6:24:07 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: markomalley

stoning women to death is a human rights abuse Jimmy.


28 posted on 06/23/2013 6:25:17 PM PDT by RC one
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To: markomalley

As a lifelong protestant, I can boldly say, Jimmah, STFU.

It is not an abuse of any type, and only a perverted, demented old man who has communist sympathies can see it that way.

It is a church and that church has its view of Christianity. It does not FORCE anyone to attend its church, unlike the Islamofascists that you seem to love.

If anyone does not want to attend the church because they do not ordain females, then no one needs to.

And if anyone wants to go to a quasi-Catholic church that does ordain females, they can go to an Episcopalian church.

Jimmah, STFU.


29 posted on 06/23/2013 6:27:09 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: markomalley
He didn't leave in 2009, he left in 2000.

The media and Carter just resurrect and repeat the story periodically, giving the impression that he just left them again so that he can repeat his anti-Southern Baptist arguments.

In October 2000, Carter again made headlines with his widely-publicized decision to leave the Southern Baptist Convention. Carter sent out over 75,000 letters to Southern Baptist churches nationwide explaining his decision.

"In April 2006, Carter, former-President Bill Clinton and Mercer University President Bill Underwood initiated the New Baptist Covenant."

30 posted on 06/23/2013 6:27:41 PM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarians, Gays = in all marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.)
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To: ealgeone

He thinks OB, the hero of benghazi is passing him on the way down, so he makes some stupid pronouncement everynyear to stay in the running.

Pope Jimmah the Last.


31 posted on 06/23/2013 6:28:14 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: big'ol_freeper

Why doesn’t this turd just die? Answer: Neither Heaven or Hell can stand the insulting little prick!


32 posted on 06/23/2013 6:29:20 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: markomalley
crazy as a loon but still allowed to roam free...

33 posted on 06/23/2013 6:30:04 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: ealgeone

Carter is trying to maintain his claim to the worst president ever.


He shouldn’t worry about that. There’s nothing he can do to pass Obama.


34 posted on 06/23/2013 6:32:57 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: markomalley

How come it’s ok to treat women like a breeding herd and have lots of wives, prevent them from going out into the street without a bag over their heads, and kill them with no penalty if it strikes your fancy? That’s Jimmeh’s favorite religion, Islam.

Christianity, which he appears to have abandoned, is the only religion that has ever promoted women. Even orthodox Jews get up and say in their prayers every morning that they “thank God they were not born a woman.”

Christ brought something entirely different to human life. Men and women are equal...but that doesn’t mean they’re the same.


35 posted on 06/23/2013 6:33:30 PM PDT by livius
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To: markomalley

I dare that peanut fart to lecture Muslims about women’s rights, especially in religion.


36 posted on 06/23/2013 6:33:46 PM PDT by pallis
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To: markomalley

Jimmy, we can’t wait until you are gone.


37 posted on 06/23/2013 6:36:01 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: markomalley

Shut up, Jimmah. You have no credibility on anything.


38 posted on 06/23/2013 6:36:16 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

“It does not FORCE anyone to attend its church, unlike the Islamofascists that you seem to love.

If anyone does not want to attend the church because they do not ordain females, then no one needs to.

And if anyone wants to go to a quasi-Catholic church that does ordain females, they can go to an Episcopalian church.”

Exactly. Carter and his fellow lefty whiners don’t get the simple fact when it comes to religious liberty, one is free to attend or not attend the religion of his choice. Don’t like the religion you’re in? Find another one. Allow the religion you don’t like to practice its own rules on ordination, baptism, or any other issue. That’s what religious liberty means.


39 posted on 06/23/2013 6:37:22 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: markomalley

Why waste your time at all? ‘Nuff said.


40 posted on 06/23/2013 6:38:07 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: markomalley
the world to give women equal rights in the eyes of God.

That's Jimmy's problem right there. Rights don't come from the world, they come from God.

41 posted on 06/23/2013 6:38:13 PM PDT by EBH (The government that sits in Washington, D.C. is not the United States government.)
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To: markomalley

Jimmy Carter, MYOB please.


42 posted on 06/23/2013 6:38:54 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: markomalley

Would this clown please hurry up and croak already!


43 posted on 06/23/2013 6:38:57 PM PDT by Jean2
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To: markomalley

Would this clown please hurry up and croak already!


44 posted on 06/23/2013 6:39:49 PM PDT by Jean2
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To: markomalley

Catholics seem to follow the Bible very literally in this case, as in no women preaching. It is their RIGHT to follow their religion.

Jimmy Carter is just an old guy begging for attention. Obbbambi is the younger version of same.


45 posted on 06/23/2013 6:40:13 PM PDT by madison10
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To: livius

Yes, and the ironic thing is that, in today’s Sunday’s second reading, Paul makes it clear that in Christ we are equal, including men and women. Where does Jimmy Carter get off of?


46 posted on 06/23/2013 6:40:49 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: bboop

“Catholic Church is definitely in the cross hairs.”

You’re right, and unfortunately it is just starting. The communists will soon move to end the tax exemption of the Church on the theory that the exemption amounts to a “government subsidy” of discrimination.


47 posted on 06/23/2013 6:41:56 PM PDT by crusader71
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To: markomalley

48 posted on 06/23/2013 6:42:41 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: markomalley

This coming from a peanuthead that is afraid of rabbits.


49 posted on 06/23/2013 6:43:20 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: markomalley
The only person who walked the face of this earth who didn't sin and wasn't God, was a WOMAN. Carter is not a Catholic, so this bears no weight with him. I ALREADY am needed through the example of Mary; women needn't stand on the altar to show their importance.

Our own local pastor, though, wrote up in the bulletin last week that he favors women as deacons, and priests should be allowed to marry. And he's actually a good priest in many ways, which makes him all the more confusing to his flock.
50 posted on 06/23/2013 6:43:43 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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