Skip to comments.Will Churches Be Sued Over Gay Marriage? (yes)
Posted on 06/27/2013 2:01:59 PM PDT by markomalley
A church group that owns beachfront property discriminated against a lesbian couple by not allowing them to rent the locale for their civil union ceremony, a New Jersey department ruled Monday in a case that has become a flash point in the nations gay rights battle.
The New Jersey Division on Civil Rights said its investigation found that the refusal of the Ocean Grove Camp Meeting Association to rent the oceanfront spot to the couple for their same-sex union in March 2007 violated the public accommodation provisions of the states Law Against Discrimination.
While the ruling is decisively in favor of the couple, Harriet Bernstein and Luisa Paster, it does not end the case. An administrative law judge still must decide on a remedy for the parties.
What this case has always been about from my clients perspective has been equality, said Larry Lustberg, the lawyer for the couple. He said they will seek an order that requires the pavilion to be open to all on an equal basis.
Brian Raum, a lawyer for the Alliance Defense Fund, a Scottsdale, Ariz.-based group that represents the Methodist organization, Camp Meeting Association, said his clients would keep pushing back against being forced to allow civil unions on the property.
Our position is the same, he said. A Christian organization has a constitutional right to use their facilities in a way that is consistent with their beliefs.
Meanwhile, the parties in the dispute are awaiting a ruling from the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on whether the issue should be decided in the division on civil rights or in federal courts. A lower federal court has ruled that the state could consider the case.
A New Jersey judge ruled against a Christian retreat house that refused to allow a same-sex civil union ceremony to be conducted on its premises, ruling the Constitution allows some intrusion into religious freedom to balance other important societal goals.
On Thursday, administrative judge Solomon A. Metzger ruled that religious liberty did not exempt the seaside retreat, which is associated with the United Methodist Church, from renting its facilities out for purposes that violate its moral beliefs.
In March 2007, Ocean Grove Camp Meeting Association declined Harriet Bernstein and Luisa Pasters request to rent its Boardwalk Pavilion for the ceremony. The couple sued, claiming they had been discriminated against on the basis of their sexual orientation. In December 2008, the state Division on Civil Rights found the Christian campground had likely violated the state Law Against Discrimination (LAD) and joined the case.
The United Methodist Church teaches, The practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching, and that ceremonies that celebrate homosexual unions shall not be conducted by our ministers and shall not be conducted in our churches.
But Judge Metzger said church doctrine was irrelevant. As to free exercise [of religion], the LAD is a neutral law of general application designed to uncover and eradicate discrimination; it is not focused on or hostile to religion, he wrote. The free exercise clause did not factor into his ruling, he stated, but a much lower standard that tolerates some intrusion into religious freedom to balance other important societal goals. He believed the arms-length nature of the transactions gave Ocean Grove comfortable distance from notions incompatible with its own beliefs.
He said this isnt a case of religious liberty, which is simply not true, Jim Campbell, who represented the resort and serves as litigation staff counsel with the Alliance Defense Fund (ADF), told LifeSiteNews.com. What this case involves at its core is the rights of a religious group to use its property in a way that is consistent with its religious beliefs.
Campbell said most people will find Metzgers belief that the state can force a religious facility to violate its conscience a very scary concept. If that is a principle of the law, then essentially the government can cast aside religion if it deems something more important. Campbell called Metzgers ruling an error of Constitutional law.
UPDATE: A reader notes a distinction that he feels should be made:
The Ocean Grove Camp Meeting Association is not a church. Granted, they have some affiliation with the United Methodist Church, however the controversy was the result of the non-church status of the OGCMA. That organization, because it is not a church, applied for a Green Acres tax exemption via the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection. The tax exemption required that the OCGMA allow use of its facilities to the public on an equal basis.
Because the OGCMA allowed the public to use the pavilion for weddings, and because the OGCMA voluntarily agreed to make its facilities open to the public on an equal basis in exchange for a tax break, the court ruled that the OCGMA could not exclude same-sex weddings from its pavilion.
Nonetheless: to my way of thinking, the central conflict here between a churchs values and a courts ruling that those values are irrelevant seems one worth noting, along with the judges comments that some intrusion into religious freedom [may be needed] to balance other important societal goals.
As to free exercise [of religion], the LAD is a neutral law of general application designed to uncover and eradicate discrimination; it is not focused on or hostile to religion, he wrote. The free exercise clause did not factor into his ruling, he stated, but a much lower standard that tolerates some intrusion into religious freedom to balance other important societal goals.
That is coming
Make no mistake.
almost time to go underground. Accept their way? NEVER!
No inferences, implications or threats...
just say'n--that's how they roll.
Liberals love to play semantics, why shouldn't we?
As I recall, the homos in Lot's day insisted on celebrating their perversion right at his front door. God then celebrated their celebration in his own way.
To the headline: hell yes they will
obama et al will point to all the other countries who throw pastors/priests into jail for that very reason.
Looks like Christians (and others) will eventually end up back down in the catacombs.
So..... if the KKK tried to rent a property owned by the NAACP and were refused, could they sue the NAACP?
EVERYTHING - most definitely religious organizations - will soon be deemed “public accommodations.” This is the pretext that will be used to inject homosexual oppression into every corner of private society.
“The free exercise clause did not factor into his ruling, he stated, but a much lower standard that tolerates some intrusion into religious freedom to balance other important societal goals.
In this case the societal goals are to force homosexuality into every crack and crevice of our lives.
This is little different actually than the Civil Rights law that makes you sell your property to whomsoever wants to buy it.
In the 60’s Blockbusters came into a block and sold to a black, knowing that other houses would then go up for sale.
The Courts ruled that you had to sell the house to blacks if they wanted it.
This is little different and the Church will lose.The fag know that. This BS about looking for equality is horse dung. They are looking to make a case for their nasty perverted agenda.
2 female muff divers screwing up life for thousands of normal people. It isn’t Equality they want, its revenge for being born without a penis.
You bet they will!
But I think people are missing the endgame. It’s not just the sentimental gay stuff.
It’s that the government is now going to define every aspect of human life. This ranges from relationships between people, to how people are identified (note the fact that the government decides to give a new birth certificate to a supposedly “transgendered” person), to the increasing control over reproduction and the means of reproduction.
This is about creating a totally managed society that has rejected Natural Law and, now that Obama has transformed our government into an executive-only government, has the power to crush and destroy anyone who opposes or even questions it.
But, but there is separation of church and state. They can’t do this.
Wake up Virginia, not only is Santa Claus a drag queen, but the Yankee government can force you to believe it.
For all the NSA trolls, FU.
NO the catch phrase is “societal goals” which means only the thing they are for.
Shortly after this ruling there would be an accidental fire.
Actually, this has the potential to become much worse than the worse pogroms of the Roman Empire. The Romans were largely ambivalent toward Christians unless hostile Jewish leaders cast them as disturbers of the public order and usurpers of authority.
The Gaystapo hates Christians personally, with perfect hatred, by virtue of believers' association with their Eternal Enemy. If all restrain were removed from queers doing what they really wanted, the Roman Arena would seem like a merciful end in comparison.
Many church leaders of pretty much all denominations have made common cause with the Progressives for nearly a hundred years. This is only the natural outcome of sleeping with the devil.
Just wait until the 10-30 million illegals get to vote for the Party of Free Stuff. There will be no stopping the Progressives and Christian teaching will become illegal.
By the same logic, Judge Metzger, how much sh*t would you like in your soup? Even a gram will make it officially sh*t soup.
Other comments about hizzoner's hubris will be left out to save the mods the trouble of dumping the post.
Given they have in other places, it’s a certainty.
How successful is another matter. Liberty Counsel and Alliance Defense League, and others are very good at winning for Christians in the courtroom.
Yep. Salt air, wiring....
I swear I may put this in every post. I don’t think it is sunk in yet.
VRA ruling is MEANINGLESS. Full Faith % Credit coming to a Court near you.
The reason this once Christian nation has fallen to this point is because so many people have spent decades having their heads underground while their rear ends played, "go along to get along"
"Underground" is functionally identical to surrender and acceptance of their way whether individuals want to admit that to themselves or not.
Sometimes that is what they wish for ... LOL
You better believe this is their goal - to sue churches for discrimination. Sounds like many pastors will not do weddings any more - the perverts can just as easily get married by a judge at city hall, but,no they want to shove their sin in the faces of Christianity.
All Christian businesses will be under attack from the gays - just wait and see.
We only perform holy matrimonies”.
I couldn’t agree more!!! The gays may get “marriage” but never “holy matrimony”!
can’t wait until the same-sexers start lining up to rent real estate owned by mosques .....
Be ready for the revolt, it is coming.
Revolt is coming.
Or part of a revolt.
It will come to that before it is over, it is written.
“The sacrament of Holy Matrimony”