Posted on 06/30/2013 3:01:57 PM PDT by markomalley
Gay commentator Andrew Sullivan on Sunday CNN’s Fareed Zakaria: “I would say the religious arguments are more based in fear than in the actual teachings, that they’re based upon stray texts that actually don’t mean what you think they mean. Jesus himself only said one thing about marriage, which is that you can’t divorce. We live in a country were countless people are divorced and that doesn’t seem to threaten the religious liberty of Catholics. It’s as fundamental an issue.”
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There is an important distinction between some sins. Technically, anything we do which misses the mark in His Plan is qualified as sin. There are some sinful lifestyles, though, which occur as a consequence of further degeneration in our thinking, if we continually deny what He provides.
Romans 1 documents a situation where people not only rejected God, but He then allowed them to further degenerate in their thinking, from their own volition, into reprobate minds. They aren’t merely a comparative thinking process or alternate lifestyle. They simply defile themselves wallowing in an absence of integrity and turning themselves over to vile affections and have pleasure in those who share their corruption.
I like your tag line, I guess I’ll go back to the one that I was using a while back.
A whole lot of folks very deliberately ignore large parts of history they can't rewrite to suit their agenda.
In that regard such folks are identical to the Communists and Fascists they claim to disagree with and are, in fact, perfect little clones of the Co Moomity Organizer in Chief when it comes to honesty and logic.
In the OT, divorce was grudgingly tolerated. Homosexuality was a capital crime.
In the NT, divorce was returned to status of unacceptable. Homosexuality was moved to one step from “the unpardonable sin”.
Nowhere in Scripture is homosexuality tolerated. Divorce was at least legally formalized.
Idiot. We believe in the God as the Holy Trinity, Father, Son and Spirit. ALL Scripture is God-breathed, therefore Jesus had plenty to say about marriage and homosexuality.
Unless you want to deny that Jesus is God (which would destroy his shallow argument anyway), or that somehow one part of the Holy Trinity can disagree or nullify, or be ignorant of what God decreed as the moral law (reinforced and confirmed by Jesus in the NT), which is so illogical it is simply laughable. But this is what happens when liberal journalists try their hand at theology.
I’m not sure we should kick out divorced members. You can’t “undo” most divorces. You’d like a repentant spirit. And maybe we shouldn’t put divorced people in leadership, if the divorce was under their control.
I wouldn’t kick out homosexual members either, so long as they were not practicing homosexuality. You can’t help being a sinner, you can only repent and seek strength to overcome.
Seems to me that religion is one of the “created things” that become an object of worship.
“and because of this, God gave them over...”
—Romans 1:25++
The proliferation of homosexuality along the corruption of marriage are symptoms of a deeper social cancer.
Their argument is that because they’ve managed to corrupt marriage via the popularization of divorce, further corruption of marriage ala the abomination of Nature is acceptable.
Having one disease does not increase the healthiness of acquiring yet another disease.
Where in the OT please post verse. Thank-you.
This time not of flood water, but of fire.
What should one expect from an angry homo? Morality?
It’s too bad that some of the comments in here are so hateful. Although I agree with Church teaching on homosexuality and acting on SSA, we are also called to love and respect these folks as human beings.
When people use such hateful descriptors of gays, they most definitely sound as if those for gay marriage are correct: that those against gay marriage are just a bunch of bigots. If we want to prove them wrong about that, we might start with avoiding such hateful language.
Fair point, and that’s coming from someone who has trouble controlling himself when I’m here among FRiends and allies. Their side is quite masterful as portraying themselves as non-hateful and harmless.
Take Ellen for example, or Modern Family.. the homosexuals in those programs are shown as warm, humorous, family-oriented, “just-like-you-and-me” folks. They’re excellent at painting themselves as sympathetic characters, often to the point where those of us on the other side of the debate are often cast - by default - as hateful villains.
I’ve gotta work on this myself. We do ourselves no favors when we go over the top.. even though many of them deserve to be shamed and called-out for what they truly are.
To be clear, I’m not against call outs. We must speak the truth. I just think we have to try to do it respectfully.
And, trust me, I’m in no way saying I’m an angel...lol. Although I may be good in this area, I’m not so good in others.
Or try your best anyways to avoid the hateful language.
All that matters is what Andrew thinks they mean. BTW, to what "stray texts" is Andrew referring?
Well Andrew forgets that there were two cities that were destroyed on account of the sexual perversions.
We are all called to repentence and conversion.
WHY GOD HATES DIVORCE
Jim Tonkowich
"I hate divorce," says the LORD God of Israel, "and I hate a man’s covering himself with violence as well as with his garment," says the LORD Almighty. (Malachi 2:16)
Andrew might want to read Matthew 19, where Jesus talks about marriage and as his example uses...wait for it...Adam and Eve. Not Abraham and Sarah, David and Bathsheba, or Solomon and (pick a name)...Adam and Eve. Sometimes things really are that clear.
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