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(Video) Nehemia Gordon - Pope Benedict's Theological Three Card Monte
YouTube ^ | June 17, 2013 | Nehemia Gordon

Posted on 07/04/2013 11:57:36 PM PDT by sf4dubya

In the game "Three Card Monte," the dealer moves around three cards very quickly to confuse the players. The cards are identical on the outside, but underneath only one is the sought-after queen. In his Papal directive from 2008, Pope Benedict XVI admits that it is advantageous for Catholic theology to avoid using the Tetragrammaton. The ambiguous term "Lord" makes it possible through exegetical sleight of hand to reinterpret Old Testament verses that speak about "Yehovah" (or "Yahweh") as referring to Jesus.

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TOPICS: Judaism
KEYWORDS: karaite; nehemiagordon; tanakh; tetragrammaton
Nehemia Gordon, a well known Karaite Jew and scholar, is speaking to a group of Unitarians in this particular video.
1 posted on 07/04/2013 11:57:37 PM PDT by sf4dubya
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Ping


2 posted on 07/05/2013 12:08:23 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN; jjotto; Jewbacca

We spoke about a similar topic the other day about how many people casually accept the Christian ‘OT’ as the ‘real’ Hebrew Scriptures. Found this and thought it was a very interesting lecture demonstrating the “big one” of historical changes.


3 posted on 07/05/2013 12:42:44 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative.)
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To: sf4dubya

I’ll watch the video in the morning.

My initial thought, based on the teaser, is that this is something that would surely seem deceptive to a Jew, but seem like much ado about nothing to Christians, who believe that Jesus and Yahweh are one. Of course, even Christians should want to be careful to evaluate the context of any verse before they try to apply it to a specific personage of God.


4 posted on 07/05/2013 12:59:56 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: sf4dubya
Nehemia Gordon, a well known Karaite Jew and scholar, is speaking to a group of Unitarians in this particular video.

I'm sure that evening turned out well.

5 posted on 07/05/2013 5:05:56 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: sf4dubya

Oy vey.


6 posted on 07/05/2013 5:10:12 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Alex Murphy

Heh, actually it did. Did you watch it?


7 posted on 07/05/2013 5:15:16 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative.)
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To: vladimir998

Pretty much my thought as well. Hopefully Pope Francis puts a stop to this or reverses it.

“Let’s just strike the name of God from all the Hebrew Scriptures! Worked out for the Muslims when they did it!”


8 posted on 07/05/2013 5:19:00 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative.)
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To: Boogieman

If you strike out the name of the Father, then you really don’t have a trinity left — that is what this lecture is about. I hope you watch it all the way through or what I said will make little sense.


9 posted on 07/05/2013 5:38:55 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative.)
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To: sf4dubya

The tetragammaton is not THE name. Rather it is a reference to the god of Abraham, who is THE GOD. Jesus is the name of a human being, a person, and it is in trying to understand his relationship to “the Father,” and “the Holy Spirit,” that we come up with the doctrine of the Trinity.


10 posted on 07/05/2013 3:09:21 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: sf4dubya

Reminds me about the preposterous claims about the accurate English translation of Psalm 110:1.

And also reminds me that actual Karaites think Nehemia Gordon is a pseudo-Christian crazy.


11 posted on 07/05/2013 4:38:06 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: RobbyS

I’m sorry — do you support striking out the name of HaShem from His own writings?


12 posted on 07/06/2013 7:39:39 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative.)
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To: jjotto

Yes, that one translation gives me heartburn.

As for Nehemia, he is not a Christian. Far from it. People get hysterical over the fact he has to make a living, part of his job is translating and dating ancient texts, and a good chunk of those are sacred to other religions. I wish people would stop freaking out about it because he is a very good resource, especially his work on the Dead Sea Scrolls.

“Real” Karaites know this. The ones masquerading with their petitions because he is teaching Christians Hebrew and what the real name of HaShem is should do some serious thought before they fly off the handle, IMO.

Something to put in perspective with all these Reform rabbis preaching stuff that directly contradicts Torah like gay marriage. There is a reason why Karaite Judaism is growing, but I don’t think it has the infrastructure in the US to hit critical mass.


13 posted on 07/06/2013 7:51:00 PM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative.)
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