Posted on 07/07/2013 10:37:51 AM PDT by Colofornian
On the day of July 8, 1838 -- 175 years ago tomorrow -- the original "prophet" of the Church of Mormon, Joseph Smith, made up four "revelations" from the Mormon god:
These are recorded in Doctrine & Covenants (numbers 117, 118, 119, & 120). Let's look at some of the verses in these:
117:12: I say unto you, I remember my servant Oliver Granger; behold, verily I say unto him that his name shall be had in sacred remembrance from generation to generation, forever and ever, saith the Lord."
Of course, you all know Oliver Granger, right? ....Uh, right?
Well, surely, you Mormons do. Right? You hold his name as a household sacred byword. Right? Generation after generation? Yes? No?
Apart from this entry, who remembers Oliver Granger? (And why?)
What? As Oliver Granger obscurity continues, a false prophesy by Smith, then? (Apparently so)
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Earlier in the chapter, Smith returns to talk about "the mountains of Adam-ondi-Ahman and on the plains of Olaha Shinehah, or the land where Adam dwelt..." (v. 8) [In D&C 116, Adam had unveiled less than two months earlier that "Adam shall come to visit his people" in this place; original reference was in D&C 78]
Per Lds "apostle" Bruce R. McConkie: "Adam-ondi-Ahman -- meaning the place or land of God where Adam dwelt -- is at a place called Spring Hill, Davies County, Missouri. This site is named by the Lord 'Adam-ondi-Ahman...'" (The Millennial Messiah, pp. 587-588)
LDS Church "prophet" Joseph Fielding Smith, Jr. stated that before the Second Coming, Adam will convene another meeting at that place to turn the government of the human family officially to Jesus Christ (Source: Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p. 13)
So...Spring Hill, MO...I know that's on the bluffs of a river. Yet Smith talks about "the mountains" of this area, which is now farmland owned by the Mormon church. What "mountains" rise up there?
Per another Lds "apostle" -- Mark E. Petersen, in his book, Adam: Who is He? -- says on p. 15 that Adam lived in Missouri.
Or what about Mountain Meadows?
It’s the names in the BoM that slay me! I just discovered the story of the beheading of “Shiz”....priceless!
From where Army cooks derived their messhall classic, “Shiz on a shingle”?
;^)
“Would you like to be ‘fair and balanced’ and post the past histories of other churches - like, say, the Catholic Church (especially during the inquisition years, including the infamous “Albigensian Crusade” from which the Pope’s infamous line “Kill them all, God will know his own” echoes down the halls of history - the ‘witch burnings’ churches of the 1600’s in America - etc.”
What would any of that history have to do with false prophecy from the guy who founded your religion? The scripture is explicit that if a prophecy fails to come to pass, that the man who spoke them is not a Prophet.
Deu_18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
How do you compare people doing bad stuff... to the founder of your religion speaking false prophecy?
“You notice no reference to the mainstream “Christian “ churches that are recognizing the gay rights agenda. Openly gay congregations. All the vitriol is reserved for Mormons!!!”
What nonsense is that? I see threads ALL THE TIME decrying the gay agenda which has infiltrated many formerly good churches.
That was a good one and true!
You are correct!
This is why all the other religions don't believe in him. They're ashamed to have such a character in their woodpile, so they replaced him with a primordial microscopic globule (with impeccable taste, manners, and breeding).
So . . . the Trailer Park of Eden was in Missouri, huh? Never thought about that before (believe it or not). I should be ashamed.
Actually, 'Adam HaRi'shon will be resurrected as one of the Seven Shepherds of Israel. But if nobody else wants to acknowledge him, we'll be glad to have him in the Bible Belt.
These mormonism threads were not about Romney before he ever ran, nor are they about Romney after he ran. But all the republican CINOs on FR who got their panties in a wad were convinced it was about Romney. Now where are they? And when will FR wise up about these first class impostors of conservatism?
Shucks, we were contesting mormanism back in the 80’s.
Don’t deal in hatred. Facts are my friend, however.
LOL good point!
How exactly is pointing out fact for general consideration the same as witch burning.
Hyperbole much?
Fact Joe Smith is no more a “prophet” than I’m a Pope, ergo anything found via his “vision” is deserving of serious scrutiny. Souls are at stake.
The real hatred would be to do nothing. If my neighbors house is burning down I will point it out.
If you would like to point out some Muslims proselytizing and working around FR please do...
You called in the stunt Mormon...
You need to get out more...
False is his sign. I didn’t want him to miss his sign.
I’ve been out and about for 66 years and have a lot more to concern myself with than Mormons. They’re free to believe what they want as are you and me!!! As Christians we are task to bring people in to the fold and insults and self righteousness does nothing to further that goal!!
Again I say: ... when will FR wise up about these first class impostors of conservatism?
CINOs have taken over FR.
“15 Therefore let no man despise my servant Oliver Granger, but let the blessings of my people be on him forever and ever.”
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I have been lax in my attention to Oliver Granger, a great man.
Regarding Adam Ondi Ahman, how can you say a prophesy is not true just because it hasn’t happened yet?
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