Posted on 07/09/2013 10:42:23 PM PDT by ClaytonP
‘Their leader’ Francis is he’s doing the same as obama. And I am NOT surprised by it.
with their own understanding of Christianity.
PROJECTION! All you know is about catholicsm which has nothing to with Christianity. God's Word is the FINAL authority for Christians.
Bombadan will bear abundant explosions.
It isn’t projection unless you consider yourself a protestant heretic. I would say however, that one sure does place limits on God when they suggest that the true God cannot appear during a spiritual exercise of another faith. I don’t discount the possibility which is what I believe Pope Francis is trying to say. But to those whose god is small, that is not possible and ergo they don’t believe in the true God.
I notice the Catholics are more hostile than normal in this thread. This is why I’m glad I escaped out of Catholicism. I don’t have to sit here and become agitated from the embarrassing stuff God’s Mouth Piece on Earth says.
That is now 2 goofball things this il papa has said I find
Divergent from my beliefs as a Christian
Good luck guys
That is now 2 goofball things this il papa has said I find
Divergent from my beliefs as a Christian
Good luck guys
Bttt
I don’t post a lot. But I’ve been a lurker since ‘97 when I was 18 and have followed the Religion forum for years. So what made me respond tonight? When I see a bunch of jackals, posing as confessed Christians sic themselves on a fellow Catholic and declare non-serviam to a charitable response by the Pope simply by virtue of their protestant mindset. So if I seem hostile, maybe people should look in the mirror.
There is no way to pass this one off as a media distortion. Its a direct quote from his sermon.
What is a Protestant heretic? I said YOU are projecting saying 'protestants' don't know about Christianity when it is Catholicism has nothing to do with Christianity. Are you into jumbling what your opponent says deliberately or do you have a problem with comprehension?
The Holy Spirit does make JESUS known to everyone including muslims. And not everyone listens. He does the same for Catholics and Mormons but most are too deceived and refuse to leave 'their man-made teachings' which void God's Word. So look at 'Rome's mess before criticizing anyone.
God's WORD is the FINAL authority but it's not for heretics.
What do you find charitable about NOT SPEAKING THE TRUTH? Do you think he is charitable to catholics, also?
Catholicism is the true Christianity. It’s the Christianity of the sinner. The Christianity of the weak, the poor, the slow. A Christianity that recognizes the weakness and failings of humanity and seeks to unite them in Christ through whatever means it can. Primarily the sacraments. Which the Protestant rejects. For they are in posession of the perfect faith. They are not weak, poor or slow. To them all has been made clear and with an unwavering vision they go forth to tear down anything that doesn’t agree with their vision. The protestant is the Nitzchean Superman.
You’re right. I suppose he could have said, “You know that Allah guy? Well you’re worshipping the false god because the true God is a Trinity composed of the Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. But once you’re done monkeying around with your fast, your moon rock worship and your bloodthirsty ways the door of Christ is open to you.” Maybe he shouldn’t have said anything at all. I’m not opposed to that notion. But if you want to go to a mosque in Rome somewhere and go up to the imam in front of his followers and tell him your conversion story and how Jesus is your Lord and Savior you go right ahead.
I also think with affection of those Muslim immigrants who this evening begin the fast of Ramadan, which I trust will bear abundant spiritual fruit. The Church is at your side as you seek a more dignified life for yourselves and your families. To all of you: o’scià!I think you should have included his words without editing... Also, you could ask the moderator to correct the spelling of Muslim.
You already are - more projecting from you.
'Your leader' said...Adam lost his bearings, his place in creation, because he thought he could be powerful, able to control everything, to be God.
Wrong! He was deceived by 'The Deceiver' who wanted to be just like God. Imagine that - your leader doesn't understand God's Word and he is covering for evil. I'm not surprised as 'evil' said in his heart...
"For you have said in your heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also on the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High". Isaiah 14:13,14
Just like the 'so called' 'Infallible' one is Rome. A spirit needs a body to do 'it's work'. That time he used a lowly snake since there was no human to use. Now he's pulling the strings of 'the religious' where the easily deceived won't have a clue because they don't honor God nor HIS WORD.
” . I also think with affection of those Muslim immigrants who this evening begin the fast of Ramadan, which I trust will bear abundant spiritual fruit. The Church is at your side as you seek a more dignified life for yourselves and your families.”
As always, pay attention to what is between the quotation marks.
We can always hope that the prayer and fasting of Buddhists, Hindus, and Muslims will bring them closer to God, even if their understanding of God is incomplete, or largely incorrect.
God knows their hearts. We don’t.
If you had taken the time to read the post you would see that was a hypothetical quote from Pope Francis to the Muslims of Rome. But a good protestant is well versed in the antics of print judo. it’s actually quite boring after the 10,000th time. It’s like those lame t-shirts that latch on to a succesful marketing campaign: Got milk? Got Jesus?
And don’t bother quoting scripture to me. I don’t play in your sandbox. And if you’re somehow trying to insinuate that the Pope is the Anti-Christ. You’re doing it badly. But like I said earlier: the protestant is absolutely convinced. They have a clue, when nobody else doesn’t. Quite frankly, I get better catechesis from a homeless, paranoid schitzophrenic street preacher.
Don’t let them rile you up, as they’re just distracting from the issue at hand.
“God knows their hearts. We don’t.”
Sure we do. If they tell us that they are Muslims, we should believe them that they are Muslims. No Muslim has ever gone to heaven and ever will, as salvation is through Jesus Christ alone.
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