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Catholics must ‘watch their tongues’, says Pope
Catholic Herald ^ | Thursday, 13 June 2013 | Staff Reporter

Posted on 07/13/2013 5:39:18 AM PDT by haffast

Catholics must “watch their tongues” and resist the temptation to resolve disputes with “insults, slander, and defamation,” Pope Francis has said.

Delivering a homily at morning Mass on Thursday, which was attended by men and women who work at Argentina’s embassies and consulates to Italy and the UN Food and Agricultural Organisation in Rome, the Pope said: “There is no need to go to a psychologist to know that when we denigrates another person it is because we are unable to grow up and need to belittle others, to feel more important.

“Jesus, with all the simplicity says: ‘Do not speak ill of one another. Do not denigrate one another. Do not belittle one another’.”

The Pope went to say that “in the end we are all travelling on the same road that will take us to the very end,” before adding, “if we do not choose a fraternal path, it will end badly, for the person who insults and the insulted. If we are not able to keep our tongues in check, we lose.”

Pope Francis concluded: “I would ask the Lord to give us all the grace to watch our tongues, to watch what we say about others. It is a small penance, but it bears a lot of fruit.”

(Excerpt) Read more at catholicherald.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ecumenism; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: argentina; popefrancis; un; vatican

1 posted on 07/13/2013 5:39:18 AM PDT by haffast
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To: haffast
I think it was a certain saint who observed that more sins are committed with the tongue than any other part of the body.
2 posted on 07/13/2013 5:48:48 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: haffast

Its not just Catholics who need to do this.


3 posted on 07/13/2013 5:54:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Sins of speech are the easiest to commit but great good can also be done through speech.


4 posted on 07/13/2013 5:57:37 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

http://biblehub.com/james/3.htm


5 posted on 07/13/2013 6:04:05 AM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: cripplecreek

Agreed.


6 posted on 07/13/2013 6:05:01 AM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: haffast
This was delivered on 13 June, not 13 July. The Vatican Radio summary was:

(Vatican Radio) May the Lord grant us the grace to watch our tongues and be careful of what we say of others, because through our weakness and sin, we often find it easier to insult and denigrate than say or do good. This was the lesson at the heart of Pope Francis’ homily Thursday morning at Mass, which he celebrated in his native Spanish. Greeting the men and women who work at Argentina’s embassies and consulates to Italy and the UN Food and Agricultural Organization in Rome, Pope Francis noted “It’s the first time I have celebrated Mass in Spanish since February 26th!, adding “it feels good!”.

As is tradition, Pope Francis’ homily was inspired by the Gospel of the day, in particular Christ’s words to his disciples "unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter into the Kingdom of heaven."

The Pope noted how this Gospel follows the Gospel of the Beatitudes and Jesus promise that He had not come to dissolve the law but to fulfill it. Pope Francis said that Christ wants “reform in continuity: from the [planting of the ] seed up to the fruit”.

Pope Francis warned that anyone who "enters Christian life" will have “greater demands made of them than others" and not “greater advantages". He said Jesus mentions some of these demands, in particular the problem of “bad relations among brethren". If our heart harbors “bad feelings” towards our brothers, the Pope said, "something is not working and we must convert, we must change." Pope Francis noted that "anger towards a brother is an insult, it’s something almost deathly ", "it kills him." He then observed that, especially in the Latin tradition, there is a "wonderful creativity" in inventing epithets. But, he cautioned, "when this epithet is friendly this is fine, the problem is when there is another kind of epithet”, when the "mechanism of insult" comes into play, which is "a form of denigration of others."

“Y no hace falta ir al psicologo...”

Pope Francis continued: “There is no need to go to a psychologist to know that when we denigrates another person it is because we are unable to grow up and need to belittle others, to feel more important." This, he said, is "an ugly mechanism". Jesus, "with all the simplicity says: "Do not speak ill of one another. Do not denigrate one another. Do not belittle one another”. The Pope noted, "in the end we are all travelling on the same road", "we are all travelling on that road that will take us to the very end." Therefore "if we do not choose a fraternal path, it will end badly, for the person who insults and the insulted". The Pope noted that "if we are not able to keep our tongues in check, we lose”. “Natural aggression, that of Cain toward Abel, repeats itself throughout history." Pope Francis observed that it is not that we are bad, rather "we are weak and sinners." That's why it is "much easier", to "resolve a situation with an insult, with slander, defamation instead of resolving it with good means".

“Yo quisiera pedir al Señor que...”

Pope Francis concluded: “I would ask the Lord to give us all the grace to watch our tongues, to watch what we say about others." “It is a small penance - he added - but it bears a lot of fruit." "Sometimes, we go hungry and think, ‘What a pity I didn’t taste the fruit of a tasty comment against another person." But, he said, "that hunger bears fruit in the long run is good for us." That's why we ask the Lord for this grace: to adapt our lives "to this new law, which is the law of meekness, the law of love, the law of peace, and at least 'prune' our tongues a little, ‘prune’ the comments that we make of others and outbursts that lead us to an easy anger or insult. May the Lord grant us all this grace".

FR Thread: Pope at Mass: The grace not to speak ill of others

7 posted on 07/13/2013 6:11:45 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

I thought this was an old homily. It looks as though he didn’t direct it towards Catholics solely.


8 posted on 07/13/2013 6:14:18 AM PDT by piusv
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To: haffast

Sins of speech are killing us in the political arena as well. Speaking the truth can be a sin of speech if we don’t use tact to avoid unnecessary insults. (I’m certainly not innocent)

Washington’s rules of civility include several rules dealing with avoiding unnecessary insults of people we may not personally think are worthy of much respect. He understood that you just don’t get anywhere by inspiring anger. Reagan seems to have known this too.


9 posted on 07/13/2013 6:19:37 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: haffast

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10 posted on 07/13/2013 6:36:00 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: cripplecreek
Speaking the truth can be a sin of speech if we don’t use tact to avoid unnecessary insults.

I'm not sure if I agree here, however it seems to be a modern virtue to tell lies to avoid offending anyone.

11 posted on 07/13/2013 6:40:36 AM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: haffast
Whoso offereth praise glorifieth me:
and to him that ordereth his conversation aright
will I shew the salvation of God.

Psalm 50:23

12 posted on 07/13/2013 6:42:07 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge

“Conversation” in Elizabethan English means “conduct, whole way of life,” not just “verbal discussion”. Of course, how you talk about e.g. others is part of “conduct”.


13 posted on 07/13/2013 6:51:29 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Campion

“Conversation” in Elizabethan English means
“conduct, whole way of life,”
not just “verbal discussion”

—I was just reading this in the discussion threads on this verse


14 posted on 07/13/2013 6:54:05 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: ClaytonP

Its called tact and it doesn’t require lying.

Its the difference between saying “You’re an idiot” and saying “I don’t think you grasp what I’m saying”.


15 posted on 07/13/2013 6:54:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Campion

Washington’s Rules of civility.

http://www.foundationsmag.com/civility.html


16 posted on 07/13/2013 6:57:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: haffast

“Thursday, June 13.” For those of you in other time zones, that’s a month ago.


17 posted on 07/13/2013 7:06:29 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("The human project is all about babies! Culture is all about babies!" ~ Cdl. Dolan)
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To: haffast

“the Pope said: “There is no need to go to a psychologist to know that when we denigrates another person it is because we are unable to grow up and need to belittle others, to feel more important. “

Pope denigrates others as being childish, hides behind rhetorical use of “we.”


18 posted on 07/13/2013 7:08:39 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: haffast

**“Jesus, with all the simplicity says: ‘Do not speak ill of one another. Do not denigrate one another. Do not belittle one another’.”**

Now if we could all take a lesson from this.


19 posted on 07/13/2013 7:10:15 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: markomalley
This was delivered on 13 June, not 13 July.

This thread's header as posted:

Catholics must ‘watch their tongues’, says Pope
Catholic Herald ^ | Thursday, 13 June 2013 | Staff Reporter

Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2013 8:39:18 AM by haffast

Thank-you for making things clearer.

20 posted on 07/13/2013 7:10:32 AM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: cripplecreek
“You’re an idiot”

some_text

21 posted on 07/13/2013 7:12:33 AM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: ClaytonP

LOL it probably wasn’t the best example to use.


22 posted on 07/13/2013 7:16:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tax-chick
"“Thursday, June 13.” For those of you in other time zones, that’s a month ago."

Contents may have expired. Sorry.

23 posted on 07/13/2013 7:16:38 AM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: dagogo redux

Specific examples, please?

Or are you anti Catholic and anti Pope?


24 posted on 07/13/2013 7:19:30 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: haffast

Apparently the pope reads FreeRepublic...


25 posted on 07/13/2013 7:23:50 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Salvation

I think he was referring to the Pope’s quote in his post. I disagree with his conclusion but I’m pretty sure that is what the poster was implying.


26 posted on 07/13/2013 7:25:19 AM PDT by piusv
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To: dagogo redux

**Pope Francis concluded: “I would ask the Lord to give us all the grace to watch our tongues, to watch what we say about others.” “It is a small penance - he added - but it bears a lot of fruit.” “Sometimes, we go hungry and think, ‘What a pity I didn’t taste the fruit of a tasty comment against another person.” But, he said, “that hunger bears fruit in the long run is good for us.” That’s why we ask the Lord for this grace: to adapt our lives “to this new law, which is the law of meekness, the law of love, the law of peace, and at least ‘prune’ our tongues a little, ‘prune’ the comments that we make of others and outbursts that lead us to an easy anger or insult. May the Lord grant us all this grace”.**


27 posted on 07/13/2013 7:39:00 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: dagogo redux

I think me means “we” as in “you and also myself.” Pope Francis goes to confession every week because he is aware of his faults and failures. I admire that. It’s what I should do.


28 posted on 07/13/2013 7:42:49 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." Matthew 19:17)
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To: cripplecreek

It is called today “political correctness”.


29 posted on 07/13/2013 7:51:58 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

So you’re suggesting that our founders were politically correct?


30 posted on 07/13/2013 7:53:12 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

No, rather the efforts of the left to control free speech.


31 posted on 07/13/2013 7:54:35 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

They don’t control my ability to speak the truth without being unnecessarily insulting. The fact that they go out of the way to be insulting just provides an example of what behavior to avoid.


32 posted on 07/13/2013 8:00:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: haffast

That is the most wise statement I have ever heard from a Pope. Wow. I am shocked. I still have a saved message from a catholic on here that will eventually come back to haunt that person. Never put insults in writing.


33 posted on 07/13/2013 8:14:54 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
You saved the message? For what purpose?

Don't forget that the Lord also said, "Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us".

34 posted on 07/13/2013 8:37:20 AM PDT by piusv
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To: haffast

“I would ask the Lord to give us all the grace to watch our tongues....

&&&
I frequently pray for this.


35 posted on 07/13/2013 8:49:17 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: haffast

I hope that includes the words spoken against Americans who support border security and the rule of law.


36 posted on 07/13/2013 8:52:40 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Harriet Meiers is looking pretty good right about now.)
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To: haffast
" Catholics must ‘watch their tongues’, says Pope

Good thing this pope wasn`t one of Jesus` discples traveling around the countryside with Him:

Matthew 16:22-24

King James Version (KJV)

22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.

23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, SATAN: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Matthew 23

13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES!

For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in.[d] 15 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel across sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell[e] as yourselves.

16 “Woe to you, BLIND GUIDES, who say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it is nothing, but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.’

17 You blind fools! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that has made the gold sacred? 18 And you say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it is nothing, but if anyone swears by the gift that is on the altar, he is bound by his oath.’

19 You blind men! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20 So whoever swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21 And whoever swears by the temple swears by it and by him who dwells in it. 22 And whoever swears by heaven swears by the throne of God and by him who sits upon it.

23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others. 24 You blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel!

25 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and the plate, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 You blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and the plate, that the outside also may be clean.

27 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like WHITEWASHED TOMBS, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are full of dead people's bones and all uncleanness. 28 So you also outwardly appear righteous to others, but within you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

29 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous, 30 saying, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’

31 Thus you witness against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers.

33 YOU SERPENTS, YOU BROOD OF VIPERS, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell?

34 Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will flog in your synagogues and persecute from town to town, 35 so that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah,[f] whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. 36 Truly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation

37 posted on 07/13/2013 8:52:42 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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To: ClaytonP
"Speaking the truth can be a sin of speech if we don’t use tact to avoid unnecessary insults...I'm not sure if I agree here..."

While I'm not one who usually entertains the parsing of words, I think it's instructive that the word, "unnecessary," was added there. Sometimes a mild insult can get an otherwise apathetic person's attention and reinforce a critical point. The example that readily comes to my mind would be a drill sergeant trying to drive home a point to a recruit about something that will ultimately be in that soldier's interest. One might call that a 'necessary' insult. Some might also perceive constructive criticism as insulting, but if the intent of the critic is sincerely for the benefit of the other person, that might be deemed a necessary insult.

I think the Pope deliberately included the word, "unnecessary" to differentiate between the above and those insults that are uttered purely with the intent to degrade and tear down, not those meant to build up.

38 posted on 07/13/2013 9:03:08 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

... or those meant to achieve another goal in the interest of the one uttering it.


39 posted on 07/13/2013 9:17:54 AM PDT by floralamiss ("For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.")
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