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To: SumProVita

“I did read your post and saw nothing that stated we needed nothing else besides the Bible.”


I can’t help you if you refuse to read the facts. Sorry. You can either actually respond to what I say or play stupid. But, I’m not obligated to play stupid along with you.

“Hmmmm...well when Paul was writing...did the Christian communities (or even the rest of the Aposltes and disciples) have access to all the books of the Bible? When did they first have access to the Bible? Exactly how many years went by in the history of Christianity before there was a Bible?”


Presumably the Old Testament always existed. And the New Testament was written and handed down to the church as they were being produced. Ignatius, Polycarp, and Irenaeus, from the end of the 1st century to the middle part of the 2nd century, quoted from essentially every book in the Bible, save maybe 2 Peter or Jude. That demonstrates that the scripture was already available, most of it being written before the destruction of the Jewish Temple, with the only stragglers possibly being the work of John, who survived after the Temple’s destruction.

Not to mention, all of the Apostles had the authority to produce scripture, and to be regarded as Prophets, so as long as they were alive, no written text was even necessary, and anything God inspired in them to write is what would become our treasure after they pass.


46 posted on 07/14/2013 3:37:41 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“And the New Testament was written and handed down to the church as they were being produced”

You never answered his question. When did the Church have access to the New Testament in the form that we have it today?


49 posted on 07/14/2013 3:39:08 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I can’t help you if you refuse to read the facts.

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Actually I AM looking for facts. The FACT is that there is nowhere in the Bible where it tells us...

1. That the Bible ALONE is our source of Teaching.
2. That the Bible is the pillar of truth for us.

If what you say is truth, then the Bible should state it as well.


67 posted on 07/14/2013 3:50:27 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

And the New Testament was written and handed down to the church as they were being produced.

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So who made the decision as to what would be included in the Bible and when did this decision take place?


119 posted on 07/14/2013 4:28:14 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; SumProVita
Presumably the Old Testament always existed.

Seriously, you really meant to say something this obviously wrong? You mean the OT predated Moses who is credited with writing the first 5 books, How about Isiah, Jeremiah and Malachi which is the last book of the OT.

You are so silly when you try to pretend you have even the slightest clue.

637 posted on 07/15/2013 4:33:07 PM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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