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Bishop TD Jakes Shocked by George Zimmerman Not Guilty Verdict; Addresses Case in Sunday Service
Christian Post ^ | 07/15/2013 | Alex Murashko

Posted on 07/15/2013 9:58:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Bishop T.D. Jakes of The Potter's House in Dallas was admittedly shocked by the not guilty verdict given Saturday evening in the George Zimmerman case, and broke away from his normal message during the majority of the worship service on Sunday to discuss the case from the church's stage.

Along with a panel of leaders in various professions, including in law and psychological counseling, and who are church members of The Potter's House, Jakes hit on a wide range of issues that the court case with its racial overtones raised.

"I cannot imagine the devastation of this man and woman (Martin's parents), whose son committed absolutely no crime at all, walking down the street on his way to his daddy's house with some Skittles and a soda, and ends up being followed by someone and ends up with an altercation with someone, and never makes it to his destination," said Jakes, near the beginning of his message. "Those parents are left grieving."

Zimmerman, who is half Hispanic and half Caucasian, was acquitted by a Florida jury on Saturday in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black teen. Shortly after the verdict, which was announced around 10 p.m. ET., civil rights leaders and critics expressed dismay at the verdict.

On Sunday morning, debates about racial profiling, guns, self-defense laws and the equality of justice that came as the result of the shooting in 2012 continued.

"Regardless of what you think should or should not have been done in that trial, and I have to say, I seldom speak out about a case," Jakes said before the panel discussion. "I seldom take time on a Sunday morning to deal with politics or anything else. I am generally silent because I have an obligation as a pastor to bring you the word of God regardless of what is going on in the times … I grappled with whether or not to be saying anything about this. I feel like for the most part that when you come to church you come to get the good news of Jesus Christ.

"But I cannot ignore the obligation that I have to you … it would be disingenuous of me to not tell you quite honestly and quite succinctly that I was stunned, shocked, [and] speechless about the outcome of this trial," he continued. "Maybe it turned out for you just the way you wanted it to, and that's fine. I am not here to change your mind, but what makes this country great is that I have the right to my opinion, you have the right to your opinion."

Jakes said that since the verdict he received more than 100 calls from all over the country from pastors and friends who are in tears as a result of the decision.

"I think it is an oversimplification of the truth to say this is totally about racism," he said. "I think that all people should be concerned. All people of all colors should be concerned."

He suggested that perhaps the media unnecessarily focused its coverage of the trial on race.

"But every parent who has a teenager, who dresses in some stereotypical way, needs to be a little alarmed that we live in a country where if that teenager is followed and ends up in a fight that we have now said it's okay to kill him if you lose the fight," Jakes explained and after pausing said, "…even though you are bigger and older and carrying a gun."

Jakes said that despite the criticism of pastors and Christians in general with associations to national issues, politicians, and political movements, the Church needs to continue speaking the truth of the Gospel.

"We sit there and watch it (injustices) and we don't say anything. I want to get rid of this lynching mentality where we come out and watch people burn up and don't say anything about it, and [instead] bring power to the church, where the church begins to speak up and speak its conviction," he said. "Even if we don't all agree as Christians, that's okay. What's important is that we be heard, that we be considered, that we be reflected upon."

Before ending in prayer, Jakes, who told new guests to the church that they had just witnessed an entirely different service, perhaps the most unique in the church's history, said he was concerned about what the verdict might mean to future cases similar in nature.

"Once you redefine something on the books (law), what happens when a woman is going through a parking garage and somebody follows her? And she's taken some kind of defense training and she tries to defend herself and she gets shot to death," Jakes insisted. "Now we have a case on the books that defends the one who shot them. ... Now you have changed the standard and even if you think it was right in this case, what happens to the precedence that you set for the next case? For someone that has no weapon and tries to fight back, do you get to kill me because I can fight?"

Jakes concluded the service by saying that the Church is in a critical time in history when it's important to accept differences of opinion and at the same time, worship God together despite those differences.


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: blackchurch; blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; tdjakes; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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1 posted on 07/15/2013 9:58:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Bishop T.D. Jakes discusses the George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin case during the Sunday service on July 14, 2013, at The Potter's House in Dallas, Texas.
2 posted on 07/15/2013 9:59:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“I never knew you...”


3 posted on 07/15/2013 10:01:37 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Amen. I never liked him. I put him up with the likes of Joel Osteen, and others...hawkers and purveyors of “Jesus” for their own financial gain.


4 posted on 07/15/2013 10:03:21 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: who knows what evil?

Amen. I never liked him. I put him up with the likes of Joel Osteen, and others...hawkers and purveyors of “Jesus” for their own financial gain.


5 posted on 07/15/2013 10:03:21 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: SeekAndFind

what a fraud and phony he’s turned out to be........worships Obama and blackness above all.


6 posted on 07/15/2013 10:03:46 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe the good “low information” pastor should have familiarized himself with the facts of the case before mouthing off with “racist’ hysterics,


8 posted on 07/15/2013 10:04:28 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: SeekAndFind

9 posted on 07/15/2013 10:04:31 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Skiddle-arink a-dink, a-dink, Skiddle-arink a-doo . . .)
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To: SeekAndFind

The man is either woefully ignorant of the facts of the case or, as a pastor, is evil personified.

Having never heard of him before now, I will not venture to say which it is.


10 posted on 07/15/2013 10:04:44 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Paved Paradise

Amen. I never liked him. I put him up with the likes of Joel Osteen, and others...hawkers and purveyors of “Jesus” for their own financial gain.


That is a textbook example of what the ten commandments calls “taking the Lord’s name in vain”.


11 posted on 07/15/2013 10:06:26 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dear Reverend, let me hear you preach against abortion and gay marriage, then we can talk.


12 posted on 07/15/2013 10:06:43 AM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Hey Obama! It's all your fault now, you own it.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

IIRC, he was a fairly sound preacher until the election of Obama. Then he completely went off the rails into racial politics.


13 posted on 07/15/2013 10:06:44 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Truth/Lies; Liberty/Tyranny--WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??)
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To: who knows what evil?; DocRock; del4hope; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; jude24; Ottofire; ...
The YBPDLNPL is generally published infrequently, but based on the exploits of the megachurch pastors posts can spike for a period of time. If you would like on or off of this list please FReepmail me.


14 posted on 07/15/2013 10:06:53 AM PDT by Gamecock ("Ultimately, Jesus died to save us from the wrath of God." R.C. Sproul)
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To: SeekAndFind

And then he called for an old fashioned lynching, because you can’t get enough anti-racist-racism.


16 posted on 07/15/2013 10:07:17 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

what a fraud and phony he’s turned out to be........worships Obama and blackness above all.


This is the silver lining of this event. A lot of previously respected deceivers are being exposed. Not all blacks are racists. He will lose members over this. He has already lost any influence over them.


17 posted on 07/15/2013 10:07:43 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Omitting [facts pertinent to the event] is a sin, Bishop...


18 posted on 07/15/2013 10:08:03 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: SeekAndFind

My anti-virus program (Kaspersky) detected a trojan virus from the website that has the story).


19 posted on 07/15/2013 10:08:51 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

IIRC, he was a fairly sound preacher until the election of Obama. Then he completely went off the rails into racial politics.


And exposed his root beliefs all along. This addresses one of the positive things about Obama’s presidency. People are being exposed for who they really are.


20 posted on 07/15/2013 10:08:56 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SeekAndFind

TD Jakes is a false teacher & so-called “Bishop” described in II Timothy 3. He is sexually immoral with affairs, icluding his gay son who frequents homosexual parks & hangouts. He is just another black racist shyster who is too stupid to admit that the teen-age criminal thug Trayvon Martin is the one who stalked GZ, and then brutally attacked GZ with the intent of killing him.


21 posted on 07/15/2013 10:09:31 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: SeekAndFind
"I seldom take time on a Sunday morning to deal with politics or anything else. I am generally silent because I have an obligation as a pastor to bring you the word of God regardless of what is going on in the times"

Then shut up and preach the Gospel, idiot!

22 posted on 07/15/2013 10:09:38 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: SeekAndFind

See exactly what I’ve thought Trayvon supporters think Zimmerman should have just let himself be beaten even to death.

How unfortunate Jakes puts race above condemning thugs who act with violence.


23 posted on 07/15/2013 10:10:28 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: SeekAndFind

Another poseur.

Too bad.


24 posted on 07/15/2013 10:10:57 AM PDT by Elpasser
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To: Paved Paradise
Amen. I never liked him. I put him up with the likes of Joel Osteen, and others...hawkers and purveyors of “Jesus” for their own financial gain.

Same here. You just have to listen to some of the theology in some of his teaching and you see it's filled with heresy.

And anyone who self-labels himself "Bishop," "Apostle" or "Prophet" has some serious self-aggrandizement problems going.

25 posted on 07/15/2013 10:11:36 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Paved Paradise
Osteen and Warren will be chiming in shortly.
26 posted on 07/15/2013 10:11:36 AM PDT by Gamecock ("Ultimately, Jesus died to save us from the wrath of God." R.C. Sproul)
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To: SeekAndFind
Zimmerman, who is half Hispanic and half Caucasian.

Is this like half Caucasian and half Scandinavian?

27 posted on 07/15/2013 10:12:36 AM PDT by Starstruck (Thank a gun owner for your freedom.)
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To: kenmcg

Had the pastor taken the rational position, he would have lost at least half of his racist congregation. The dollars own him.


28 posted on 07/15/2013 10:12:37 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Will he lose the tax free status of his church?


29 posted on 07/15/2013 10:12:48 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SeekAndFind

Skin color trumps everything. Bad call, Mr. Jakes.


30 posted on 07/15/2013 10:13:23 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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...whose son committed absolutely no crime at all, walking down the street on his way to his daddy's house with some Skittles and a soda...

Since the Bishop cannot make the excuse that he has only heard the MSNBC version of the Trayvon Martin Story, I believe this statement must be classified under the "Black Lie from the Pit of Hell" category.

31 posted on 07/15/2013 10:15:00 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: who knows what evil?
“I never knew you...”

Talk about words you never want to hear.

From the article:

"…even though you are bigger and older and carrying a gun."

Does this guy know anything about the case at all? Saying Zimmerman was bigger is a lie, older really doesn't matter unless it was a ten year old. Travon may have been only 17 but he was 6'2" which is pretty big compared to Zimmerman's 5'9" and Travon made it home and then instead of going in, he doubled back and accosted Zimmerman.

I notice he didn't make mention of Travon's racism in calling Zimmerman a crazy ... cracker. I like the way the talking heads made that out to sound like he was saying Zimmerman was a homosexual rapist when in reality, it was the same as someone else using the n word. I wonder how the homosexual community feels about being thrown under the bus, then again maybe not.

32 posted on 07/15/2013 10:16:43 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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“But every parent who has a teenager, who dresses in some stereotypical way, needs to be a little alarmed that we live in a country where if that teenager is followed and ends up in a fight that we have now said it’s okay to kill him if you lose the fight,” Jakes explained and after pausing said, “…even though you are bigger and older and carrying a gun.”


Yes, the parents of those teens should be alarmed. They’ve been put on notice that their wannabe thug children can’t beat up on law abiding citizens without consequences. If they don’t correct their parenting failures now and teach their children that violence isn’t the way to resolve disputes, then they can’t say they didn’t have any warning.


33 posted on 07/15/2013 10:18:47 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SeekAndFind

“I seldom take time on a Sunday morning to deal with politics...”

The pull quote. So rev, this is political right?


34 posted on 07/15/2013 10:22:20 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: SeekAndFind
Jakes explained and after pausing said, "…even though you are bigger and older and carrying a gun."

I'm pretty sure I could find someone younger and smaller than Jakes that could beat the bishop to an inch of his life and see he would reach for anything he could to save his own life. It's called self defense rev.

37 posted on 07/15/2013 10:28:37 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: SeekAndFind

What is this Potty House?


38 posted on 07/15/2013 10:29:37 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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“’I seldom speak out about a case,’ Jakes said before the panel discussion...”


“Then I saw his skin color and KNEW he was automatically the victim of Evil Whitey.”


39 posted on 07/15/2013 10:33:14 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The Buck Stops Over There.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So I guess calling Zimmerman a “WHITE Hispanic” isn’t profiling?

Shame on TD Jakes.


40 posted on 07/15/2013 10:34:55 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The Buck Stops Over There.)
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whose son committed absolutely no crime at all,

I respect Rev Jakes but here is where he goes wrong. TM was in the process of committing FELONY ASSAULT and possibly ATTEMPTED MURDER.

41 posted on 07/15/2013 10:35:10 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: SeekAndFind

Once more: where was the “shock” when the OJ verdict was read? BTW, when will TD’s church canonize St. Tray? Will he call for “Hoodie Sunday”?


42 posted on 07/15/2013 10:42:37 AM PDT by windsorknot (>>>)
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To: Starstruck

“Zimmerman, who is half Hispanic and half Caucasian.”

The people who are “against profiling” want you to be sure that Zimmerman “fits the profile.”


43 posted on 07/15/2013 10:43:19 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The Buck Stops Over There.)
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“All people of all colors should be concerned.”

What color? People have colors? I want to be green.

This guy is just another race hustling pimp. FUTDJ


44 posted on 07/15/2013 10:45:26 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: SeekAndFind

The “FACTS” and the “EVIDENCE” (or lack thereof), just don’t matter to these RACISTS. A “supposed” man of God, should promote healing not race baiting.


45 posted on 07/15/2013 10:49:15 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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Dear Bishop:

Read this and buy a clue

When you embrace a certain lifestyle, you become a 2-bit punk in school.
When you become a 2-bit punk in school, you think it's funny to write "WTF" on someone's locker.
When you write "WTF" on someone's locker, you get reported.
When you get reported, you get YOUR locker searched.
When you get YOUR locker searched, they find stolen items and burglary tools.
When they find stolen items and burglary tools, you get a long suspension.
When you get a long suspension, your Mother sends you away for awhile to your father's little town.
When you are away in your father's little town, you get bored.
When you get bored, you take long walks through unfamiliar places.
When you take long walks through unfamiliar places, you get spotted and followed by Neighborhood watches.
When you get spotted and followed by Neighborhood watches, you get pissed.
When you get pissed, you start fighting.
When you start fighting, you start winning and feeling good. When you start winning and feeling good, you keep pounding.
When you keep pounding, you get shot through the heart by a concealed carry.

Don't get shot through the heart by a concealed carry.
Don't be a 2-bit punk in school

46 posted on 07/15/2013 10:52:36 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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‘Jakes said that since the verdict he received more than 100 calls from all over the country from pastors and friends who are in tears as a result of the decision.’

HEY JAKEY GET ANY TEARFUL CALLS FROM THE FRIENDS OF MR ZIMMERMAN LAMENTING HIS SOLITARY CONFINEMENT INCARCERTION AND THE SUFFERING SUSTAINED BY AN INNOCENT MAN BEARING A YEAR OF ANXIETY OVER BEING FALSELY CHARGED WITH MURDER. YOU KNOW SONNY IT IS SAID THAT....SYMPATHY FOR THE GUILTY IS A BETRAYAL OF THE INNOCENT...


47 posted on 07/15/2013 10:54:10 AM PDT by jimsin
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Jakes has been a Hillary supporter for years.

His take on abortion:

“Go ahead and preach against abortion,” he told his mostly black audience of ministers and lay people.
“But when you get through preaching against abortion, give us some milk up in here, so that we can feed the babies you told us we ought to have.”
The Cincinnati Post 6/13/03


48 posted on 07/15/2013 10:56:21 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: SeekAndFind

“T. D. Jakes is the American pastor with a net worth of $18 million.”

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/models/bibi-jones-net-worth/

All the comments by Blacks support him being rich. What can you say to these people? How can they be so BLIND? Race blinds them from all reason.


49 posted on 07/15/2013 10:57:01 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I would say he went off the rails with the announed candidacy of Obama....but I get your point....I agree. Used to be well respected....right up there with Tony Evans and some other black Pastors with huge followings of all races.


50 posted on 07/15/2013 11:09:54 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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