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Veteran Jesuit explains choice to return to lay life [Catholic Caucus]
NC Reporter ^ | July 15, 2013 | Robert McClory

Posted on 07/16/2013 3:23:21 AM PDT by NYer

In a lengthy, moving letter to friends and colleagues, veteran Jesuit priest Bert Thelen explains his reasons for leaving the order and the priesthood and returning to the lay state. Thelen, who is almost 80 years old, has served as parish priest, provincial staff member and provincial during his 45 years of service.

Thelen credits the example of Christian living he has experienced during the last 14 years working at Creighton University and St. John's Parish for his decision. "It is you," he says, "who have freed, inspired, and encouraged me to the New Life to which I am now saying a strong and joyful 'Yes.' You have done this by challenging me to be my best self as a disciple of Jesus, to proclaim boldly His Gospel of Love, and to widen the horizons of my heart to embrace the One New World we are called to serve in partnership with each other and our Triune God ...

"Why does this 'YES' to embrace the call of our cosmic inter-connectedness mean saying 'NO' to ordained ministry? My answer is simple but true. All mystical traditions, as well as modern science, teach us that we humans cannot be fully ourselves without being in communion with all that exists. Lasting justice for Earth and all her inhabitants is only possible within this sacred communion of being. We need conversion -- conversion from the prevailing consciousness that views reality in terms of separateness, dualism, and even hierarchy, to a new awareness of ourselves as inter-dependent partners , sharing in one Earth-Human community.

"In plainer words, we need to end the world view that structures reality into higher and lower, superior and inferior, dominant and subordinate, which puts God over Humanity, humans over the rest of the world, men over women, the ordained over the laity. As Jesus commanded so succinctly, 'Don't Lord it over anyone ... serve one another in love.' As an institution, the Church is not even close to that idea; its leadership works through domination, control, and punishment. So, following my call to serve this One World requires me to stop benefiting from the privilege, security, and prestige ordination has given me. I am doing this primarily out of the necessity and consequence of my new call, but, secondarily, as a protest against the social injustices and sinful exclusions perpetrated by a patriarchal church that refuses to consider ordination for women and marriage for same- sex couples ..."

Nor does he spare the Jesuit order in his critique. "Make no mistake about it: the Society of Jesus shares in and benefits from this patriarchal and clerical way of proceeding. We still regard ourselves as the shepherds and those to whom and with whom we minister as sheep. I discovered this painfully when the Society of Jesus decided against having Associate members. We are not prepared for co-membership or even, it seems at times, for collaboration, though we pay lip service to it. 'Father knows best' remains the hallmark of our way of proceeding. I can no longer, in conscience, do that. But I still honor and love my fellow Jesuits who work from that model of power over."

Thelen declares that the church needs to focus its energies on environmental challenges today. "It is time to abandon our refusal to see that our very environment is central to the survival and well being of ALL earthlings. It is time for the Church to turn her attention from saving face to saving the earth, from saving souls to saving the planet. It is time to focus on the sacred bond that exists between us and the earth. It is time to join the Cosmic Christ in the Great Work of mending, repairing, nurturing, and protecting our evolving creation. It is time for a new vision of a universal Church whose all-inclusive justice and unconditional love, an expression of Christ consciousness and the work of the Holy Spirit, empowers ALL and can lead to a future that preserves the true right to life of all of God's creatures."

He ends by thanking all who "have followed me in the journey ... and I am sorry for whatever sadness, disappointment or hurt this may have caused you. But what I have written here is my truth, and I can't not do it."

Here's the whole letter:

May the Grace of Jesus Christ, the Love of God, and the Peace of the Holy Spirit be with you! I am writing to tell you about what may be the most important decision of my life since entering the Jesuits. With God's help, at the behest of my religious superiors and the patient support and wise encouragement of my CLC group and closest friends, I have decided to leave ordained Jesuit ministry and return to the lay state, the priesthood of the faithful bestowed on me by my Baptism nearly 80 years ago. I do this with confidence and humility, clarity and wonder, gratitude and hope, joy and sorrow. No bitterness, no recrimination, no guilt, no regrets.

It has been a wonderful journey, a surprising adventure, an exploration into the God Who dwells mysteriously in all of our hearts. I will always be deeply grateful to the Society of Jesus for the formation, education, companionship, and ministry it has provided, and to my family for their constant support. I can never thank God enough for the loving and loyal presence in my life of each and every one of you.

Why am I doing this? How did I reach this decision? I will try to tell you now. That is the purpose of this letter. For about 15 years now, as many of you have noticed, I have had a "Lover's Quarrel" with the Catholic Church. I am a cradle Catholic and grew up as Catholic as anyone can, with Priests and even Bishops in our household, and 17 years of Catholic education at St. Monica's Grade School, Milwaukee Messmer High School, and Marquette University. I took First Vows at Oshkosh in the Society of Jesus at age 25 and was ordained at Gesu Church to the priesthood ten years later in 1968. I have served the Church as a Jesuit priest in Milwaukee, Omaha, and Pine Ridge for 45 years, including 18 years on the Province Staff culminating in my being the Wisconsin Provincial for six years and attending the 34th General Congregation in Rome.

My last 14 years at Creighton and St. John's have been the best years of my life. I have truly enjoyed and flourished serving as pastor of St. John's. I cannot even put into words how graced and loved and supported I have been by the parishioners, parish staff, campus ministry, Ignatian Associates, and CLC members! It is you who have freed, inspired, and encouraged me to the New Life to which I am now saying a strong and joyful "Yes." You have done this by challenging me to be my best self as a disciple of Jesus, to proclaim boldly His Gospel of Love, and to widen the horizons of my heart to embrace the One New World we are called to serve in partnership with each other and our Triune God. It is the Risen Christ Who beckons me now toward a more universal connection with the Cosmos, the infinitely large eco-system we are all part of, the abundance and vastness of what Jesus called "the Reign of God."

Why does this "YES" to embrace the call of our cosmic inter-connectedness mean saying "NO" to ordained ministry? My answer is simple but true. All mystical traditions, as well as modern science, teach us that we humans cannot be fully ourselves without being in communion with all that exists. Lasting justice for Earth and all her inhabitants is only possible within this sacred communion of being. We need conversion – conversion from the prevailing consciousness that views reality in terms of separateness, dualism, and even hierarchy, to a new awareness of ourselves as inter-dependent partners , sharing in one Earth-Human community. In plainer words, we need to end the world view that structures reality into higher and lower, superior and inferior, dominant and subordinate, which puts God over Humanity, humans over the rest of the world, men over women, the ordained over the laity. As Jesus commanded so succinctly, "Don't Lord it over anyone … serve one another in love." As an institution, the Church is not even close to that idea; its leadership works through domination, control, and punishment. So, following my call to serve this One World requires me to stop benefiting from the privilege, security, and prestige ordination has given me. I am doing this primarily out of the necessity and consequence of my new call, but, secondarily, as a protest against the social injustices and sinful exclusions perpetrated by a patriarchal church that refuses to consider ordination for women and marriage for same- sex couples.



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1 posted on 07/16/2013 3:23:21 AM PDT by NYer
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I have become convinced that the Catholic Church will never give up its clerical privilege until and unless we priests (and bishops) willingly step down from our pedestals. Doing this would also put me in solidarity with my friend, Roy Bourgeois, my fellow Jesuit, Fr. Bill Brennan, the late Bernard Cooke, and many other men who have been "de-frocked" by the reigning hierarchy. It will also support the religious and lay women, former Catholics, and gay and lesbian couples marginalized by our church. I want to stand with and for them. I am, if you will, choosing to de-frock myself in order to serve God more faithfully, truly, and universally.

But why leave the Jesuits? Make no mistake about it: the Society of Jesus shares in and benefits from this patriarchal and clerical way of proceeding. We still regard ourselves as the shepherds and those to whom and with whom we minister as sheep. I discovered this painfully when the Society of Jesus decided against having Associate members. We are not prepared for co-membership or even, it seems at times, for collaboration, though we pay lip service to it. "Father knows best" remains the hallmark of our way of proceeding. I can no longer, in conscience, do that. But I still honor and love my fellow Jesuits who work from that model of power over. It is still where we all are as a company, a Society, a community of vowed religious in the Roman Catholic church. Leaving behind that companionship is not easy for me, but it is the right thing for me to do at this time in my life. When I went through a formal discernment process with my CLC group, one member whose brilliance and integrity I have always admired and whose love and loyalty to the Jesuits is beyond question, said of my decision, "You cannot NOT do this!" He had recognized God's call in me.

A few other considerations may help clarify my path. The Church is in transition – actually in exile. In the Biblical tradition, the Egyptian, Assyrian and Babylonian captivities led to great religious reforms and the creation of renewed covenants. Think of Moses, Jeremiah, and Isaiah. I think a similar reform is happening in our Catholic faith (as well as other traditions). We have come through far-reaching, earth-shaking evolutionary changes, and a new (Universal) Church as well as a new (One) World is emerging. My decision is a baby step in that Great Emergence, a step God is asking me to take.

Consider this. Being a Lay Catholic has sometimes been caricatured as "Pray, pay, and obey." Of course, that is a caricature, an exaggeration, a jibe. But it does point to a real problem. Recently, the hierarchical church mandated the so-called revision of the Roman Missal without consulting the People of God. It was both a foolish and a self-serving effort to increase the authority of Ordained men, damaging and even in some ways taking away the "Pray" part of "Pray, pay, and obey." No wonder more and more Catholics are worshipping elsewhere, and some enlightened priests feel compromised in their roles. I, for one, feel that this so-called renewal , though licit, is not valid. It is not pleasing to God, and I feel compromised in trying to do it.

Now, consider this. All of this liturgical, ecclesial, and religious change is located in and strongly influenced by what both science and spirituality have revealed as happening to our world, our planet, our universe. The very earth we are rooted and grounded in, as well as the air we breathe and the water we drink, are being damaged and destroyed even beyond (some say) our capacity to survive. And, as Fr. John Surette, S.J., has so wisely observed, "Injustice for the human and destruction of Earth's ecosystem are not two separate injustices. They are one." Biocide is even more devastating than genocide, because it also kills future inhabitants of our precious Earth.

It is time. It is time to abandon our refusal to see that our very environment is central to the survival and well being of ALL earthlings. It is time for the Church to turn her attention from saving face to saving the earth, from saving souls to saving the planet. It is time to focus on the sacred bond that exists between us and the earth. It is time to join the Cosmic Christ in the Great Work of mending, repairing, nurturing, and protecting our evolving creation. It is time for a new vision of a universal Church whose all-inclusive justice and unconditional love, an expression of Christ consciousness and the work of the Holy Spirit, empowers ALL and can lead to a future that preserves the true right to life of all of God's creatures. This includes future generations who will bless us for allowing them to live, evolve, and flourish. Can't you hear them crying out, "I want to live, I want to grow, I want to be, I want to know?"

In light of all this, how can I not respond to the call both Isaiah and Jesus heard, the call of our Baptism? "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because the Lord has anointed me and sent me to bring Good News to the oppressed." All creation will be freed, and all people will know the freedom and glory of the Children of God. Yes, Lord, I will go. Please send me.

And that is why I am leaving Jesuit priesthood. Since first vows I have always thought and hoped and prayed that I would live and die in this least Society of Jesus. But now, something unexpected! A real surprise! I HAVE lived and died in the Society of Jesus, but, now, nearly 80, I have been raised to new life. I am born again – into a much larger world, a much newer creation. I have greatly benefited from the spiritual freedom given in and by the Society of Jesus. I feel no longer chained, limited, bound, by the shackles of a judicial, institutional, clerical, hierarchical system. As St. Paul once reminded the early Christians, "It is for freedom that you have been set free." And as St. Peter, the first Pope, learned when he said to Jesus, "You know that I love you," love is all about surrender and servanthood.

Thank you for your attention to this self presentation. I am grateful that you have followed me in the journey described here, and I am sorry for whatever sadness, disappointment, or hurt this may have caused you. But what I have written here is my truth, and I can't not do it! If you want to discuss this with me, ask questions, or give me feedback, I welcome your response, either by letter, e-mail or phone. Please pray for me, as I do for all of you, the beloved of my heart and soul.

Yours in the Risen Christ, Bert Thelen


2 posted on 07/16/2013 3:24:34 AM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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I have become convinced that the Catholic Church will never give up its clerical privilege until and unless we priests (and bishops) willingly step down from our pedestals. Doing this would also put me in solidarity with my friend, Roy Bourgeois, my fellow Jesuit, Fr. Bill Brennan, the late Bernard Cooke, and many other men who have been "de-frocked" by the reigning hierarchy. It will also support the religious and lay women, former Catholics, and gay and lesbian couples marginalized by our church. I want to stand with and for them. I am, if you will, choosing to de-frock myself in order to serve God more faithfully, truly, and universally.

He gets it! Not surprising, he has many empathetic supporters posting comments on NCR.

3 posted on 07/16/2013 3:27:34 AM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer

He actually thinks that the Church should embrace homosexuality and liberalism. He probably should have been removed from the clerical state many years ago.


4 posted on 07/16/2013 3:34:30 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: NYer

Senile dementia


5 posted on 07/16/2013 3:37:17 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: NYer

APrime example of why age does not always mean wisdom...


6 posted on 07/16/2013 4:07:15 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam

At least he did the right thing and is stepping down , and leaving the Church.

Now we will see what Church he will go to, for certainly with this letter he shows me that he isn’t going to stop preaching, he is just changing channels.


7 posted on 07/16/2013 4:22:05 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: NYer

“Because I was always a leftist first.”


8 posted on 07/16/2013 4:24:17 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No pun intended, no punishment ... If I offended you, you needed it.)
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To: iowamark

Believe it or not, the Society of Jesus has been moving away from these leftist priests, the younger priests being much less liberal.

Perhaps he was feeling the push out the door.

This may just be another manifestation of the work of Saint Michael.

The Jesuits, and Catholicism, are far better off without this leftist loser.


9 posted on 07/16/2013 4:30:40 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: NYer

A little too much acid in the ‘60s finally caught up to this poor fellow.


10 posted on 07/16/2013 4:32:36 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: NYer

“In other words, it’s far more convenient for me to get laid if I’m not a priest.”


11 posted on 07/16/2013 4:53:27 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare--now a Marine Mom)
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At 80, I doubt not being a priest would make much difference in that context.


12 posted on 07/16/2013 5:05:37 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No pun intended, no punishment ... If I offended you, you needed it.)
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LOL.

As for the OP, probably not the most Christian thing to say, but “Don’t let the door hit you on the way out”.


13 posted on 07/16/2013 5:19:45 AM PDT by piusv
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To: Tax-chick

Maybe you’re right; maybe I’m being uncharitable. Mea culpa (I say it without sarcasm).


14 posted on 07/16/2013 5:43:10 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare--now a Marine Mom)
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To: NYer

I had a philosophy professor in college who had left the priesthood and the Jeusit order. He was a lefty, but an intellectually honest one. He knew that he and I disagreed heartily on most things, but enjoyed the vigorous debate and exchange of ideas. My grades didn’t suffer a bit, and we had a lot of respect for one another.


15 posted on 07/16/2013 5:58:16 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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Dear Sir,

Could you please Take Fake Father Pflagger with you. I can’t spell his name, but he is easily found. Simply look for the biggest Drama Queen who must scream to make his points.


16 posted on 07/16/2013 5:59:37 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obam a's Socialist Agenda:)
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To: NYer

45 years too late. If only all wackadoo clergy would adopt this strategy sooner after being ordained.

FReegards


17 posted on 07/16/2013 6:16:05 AM PDT by Ransomed
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Believe it or not, the Society of Jesus has been moving away from these leftist priests, the younger priests being much less liberal.

In fact, these progressivist Jesuits are found predominantly in the west. As many in the forum already know, my pastor is from Lebanon. In the Middle East, the Jesuits have always maintained their order's identity. When I pointed out to him the progressivist opinions and practices here in the west, he was stunned.

18 posted on 07/16/2013 6:31:48 AM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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Too long Plus anypiece trying to explain leaving the priesthood is too long if its more than abot one word. Im not going to read it. Theres not going to be anything interesting, intelligent, truthful nor honest and charitable to tge church. Wouldnt wast my time

Nor cloud my thinking

Im insulted you put a hit piece out and of this ridiculous length


19 posted on 07/16/2013 6:32:50 AM PDT by stanne
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maybe I’m being uncharitable

Only you can say ... but realistically, it would probably be a much more significant factor if he were 50 instead of 80. His comments are about a pervasive leftist philosophy, which includes dropping sexual morality even if he doesn't mention that ... but he's 80.

I think he'd have left 20 or 30 years ago, if (a) having sex was really important to him and (b) being a priest was a hindrance.

20 posted on 07/16/2013 7:58:24 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No pun intended, no punishment ... If I offended you, you needed it.)
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Perhaps he knows the game is up. The Church is not evolving in his direction, in his lifetime. Time to go. Yet I doubt there will be a noticeable cascade of self-defrockings, if only because as a retired priest, somebody will take care of you somehow. If you are not a priest, you get to face economic reality and old age at the same time.


21 posted on 07/16/2013 8:18:14 AM PDT by married21
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The sisters on the bus will no doubt have a spare bunk for him.


22 posted on 07/16/2013 12:15:25 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Electorate data confirms Resolute Conservative voted for Soetoro)
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In his old age, he’s turning to New Age.


23 posted on 07/16/2013 2:29:36 PM PDT by Heart-Rest (Good reading ==> | ncregister.com | catholic.com | ewtn.com | newadvent.org |)
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Bye, Bert. You’ll find plenty of churches that embrace those things you love, aka the wide road that encompasses all and leads to perdition.


24 posted on 07/17/2013 7:51:56 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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cosmic connectedness? Yup. a new age idiot.

but the real reason is this: I am doing this primarily out of the necessity and consequence of my new call, but, secondarily, as a protest against the social injustices and sinful exclusions perpetrated by a patriarchal church that refuses to consider ordination for women and marriage for same- sex couple

wonder who pressured him to leave?

25 posted on 07/19/2013 1:54:13 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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I have become convinced that the Catholic Church will never give up its clerical privilege until and unless we priests (and bishops) willingly step down from our pedestals. Doing this would also put me in solidarity with my friend, Roy Bourgeois, my fellow Jesuit, Fr. Bill Brennan, the late Bernard Cooke, and many other men who have been "de-frocked" by the reigning hierarchy. It will also support the religious and lay women, former Catholics, and gay and lesbian couples marginalized by our church. I want to stand with and for them. I am, if you will, choosing to de-frock myself in order to serve God more faithfully, truly, and universally.

Kinda sounds like BrAngelina's 'threat' to not get married until homosexuals got the 'right to marry' in CA.

He also sounds like he's inculcated a little too much 'new age' thinking into his 'ministry'. I'm sad about this, but it has infected so many Jesuits in this country, and around the world.

And despite his rejection of 'hierarchy', he is demonstrating a 'hierarchy' of his own, by giving off distinct 'I'm more moral than the Church' vibes with his comments.

26 posted on 07/20/2013 2:37:56 PM PDT by SuziQ
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