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Judge rules in favor of student thrown out of class for saying he doesn’t support gay lifestyle
LifeSiteNews ^ | 7-16-13 | Thaddeus Baklinski

Posted on 07/17/2013 5:38:44 PM PDT by ReformationFan

A judge has ruled in favor of a student who sued after he was thrown out of class by a gay activist teacher for expressing his religious beliefs against the homosexual lifestyle.

Federal District Judge Patrick J. Duggan of the Eastern District of Michigan declared the teacher’s actions in punishing Daniel Glowacki violated his First Amendment Rights.

"While the Court certainly recognizes that schools are empowered to regulate speech to prevent students from invading the rights of other students, people do not have a legal right to prevent criticism of their beliefs or for that matter their way of life," Judge Duggan stated in his decision.

"Simply put, the law does not establish a generalized hurt feelings defense to a high school’s violation of the First Amendment rights of its students."

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; abortion; danielglowacki; deathpanels; goodnews; homonaziagenda; homosexualagenda; michigan; moralabsolutes; obamacare; religiousliberty; romancatholic; zerocare
Some good news(relatively speaking) for today although Daniel Glowacki never should've had to endure this treatment in the first place.
1 posted on 07/17/2013 5:38:44 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Precedent ...?


2 posted on 07/17/2013 5:43:16 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: ReformationFan

Good for Daniel, but was the Nazi teacher fired?


3 posted on 07/17/2013 5:44:40 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: ReformationFan

Good. Now bankrupt this idiot “teacher” and the district that hired him.


4 posted on 07/17/2013 5:45:17 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: ReformationFan

Good for Daniel Glowacki and this sane federal judge.


5 posted on 07/17/2013 5:45:59 PM PDT by jazusamo ("I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white." T. Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

There is hope. There is, there really is. Well until some asshat judge up the line over-rules.


6 posted on 07/17/2013 5:49:50 PM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: ReformationFan

Good!


7 posted on 07/17/2013 5:52:30 PM PDT by Thorliveshere (Tais deau sá taghdedaul!)
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To: ReformationFan

from what I’ve seen, the kid got lucky


8 posted on 07/17/2013 5:54:06 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: jazusamo

So has the school be renamed after him?


9 posted on 07/17/2013 5:55:17 PM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: ReformationFan
If someone is offended by my beliefs on homosexuality, I tell them "Your issue is not with me. Your issue is with God. His Bible says this. I'm just quoting it or paraphrasing it. If that offends you, take that up with God. Tell Him what a homophobe He is. Tell Him that He engages in 'hate speech'. Go ahead. Blaspheme away."
10 posted on 07/17/2013 5:55:41 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: ReformationFan

Duggan is an old school Reagan appointee who obviously still thinks we have a First Amendment. Good for him.


11 posted on 07/17/2013 5:56:33 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: ReformationFan

pretty bold of the teacher in the first place...I wonder what led him to believe he could such a thing to a student...???


12 posted on 07/17/2013 5:57:56 PM PDT by BCW (Book - http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: phormer phrog phlyer
It'd be nice to think this idiot teacher paid all costs for Daniel's ordeal and the renaming of the school but it's unlikely.
13 posted on 07/17/2013 5:58:47 PM PDT by jazusamo ("I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white." T. Sowell)
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To: ReformationFan

That’s how it should be...FIGHT BACK!


14 posted on 07/17/2013 5:59:21 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: ReformationFan

I’m sure the Obama/Holder JUSTUS Dept will get right on this one. /s


15 posted on 07/17/2013 6:02:21 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: ReformationFan
A judge has ruled in favor of a student who sued after he was thrown out of class by a gay activist teacher for expressing his religious beliefs against the homosexual lifestyle.

Federal District Judge Patrick J. Duggan of the Eastern District of Michigan declared the teacher’s actions in punishing Daniel Glowacki violated his First Amendment Rights.

Thank you Judge Duggan...Who appointed him to the bench? He sounds sensible!!

16 posted on 07/17/2013 6:07:16 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Ben Carson/Rand Paul in 2016)
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To: ReformationFan

Is this Michiganistan? How about when a Muslim says something politically incorrect?


17 posted on 07/17/2013 6:07:25 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: BCW
McDowell initiated a discussion about homosexuality when, after telling a female student he was offended by her confederate flag belt buckle and ordering her to remove it, he went on to explain the purple “Tyler’s army” shirt he was wearing was meant to promote tolerance of homosexuality.

The court heard that the teacher specifically asked Daniel about his feelings on homosexuals. When the boy responded that as a Catholic he was offended by the gay and lesbian lifestyle, Daniel was ordered to leave the classroom under threat of suspension.

In other words, the teacher deliberately provoked a confrontation, utterly unrelated to any legitimate pedagogical goal, and then threw the student out when his beliefs were unacceptable.

Nothing will happen to the "teacher," of course, but at least the boy realizes what life is like, now.

18 posted on 07/17/2013 6:09:38 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No pun intended, no punishment ... If I offended you, you needed it.)
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To: ReformationFan
"While the Court certainly recognizes that schools are empowered to regulate speech to prevent students from invading the rights of other students,...

What?

I'm sorry, to me this is like saying there really is no right to free speech. If what you say offends someone - anyone - you no longer have the right to say it.

Sorry judge, my right to free speech is not given to me by you, it's a God given right that you do not have the power to rescind.

19 posted on 07/17/2013 6:13:24 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: jeffc

The judge didn’t say, “to keep from offending others”; he said, “to prevent ... invading the rights of other students.” Then he specifically said that he did not recognize a “right” to not hear something you didn’t like.

I assume what he had in mind was “invading” another student’s “right” to learn the subjects being taught in school. For example, if one student spend the entire class period screaming obscenities at everyone else, that prevents the educational mission of the school from progressing. In that situation, I think everyone would agree the student should be removed.


20 posted on 07/17/2013 6:17:04 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No pun intended, no punishment ... If I offended you, you needed it.)
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To: BCW

The same psychotic arrogance that many years ago caused a teacher to tmsend another student and me to the principal’s office to be reprimanded (and threatened with suspension) for disagreeing with him about the merits of a poem that was being discussed in class.


21 posted on 07/17/2013 6:22:59 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Tax-chick
That I can agree with.

Sad, though, that many (mostly liberals) need remedial training in the understanding of free speech. I am reminded of the student demonstrator attempting to shout down the speech of someone he disagreed with. As he was led away, he was heard to shout, "My free speech rights are being violated!"

You post an excellent example of the abuse, not misuse, of free speech rights.

22 posted on 07/17/2013 6:25:05 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: OrangeHoof

Haha, that’s the exact same thing I tell people. If you don’t like what I’m saying, then take it up with God. They don’t have an answer for that.


23 posted on 07/17/2013 6:27:56 PM PDT by Catsrus (`)
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To: ReformationFan
"Simply put, the law does not establish a generalized hurt feelings defense to a high school’s violation of the First Amendment rights of its students."

Excellent!!

24 posted on 07/17/2013 6:29:09 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: jeffc
You post an excellent example of the abuse, not misuse, of free speech rights.

I was just trying to point out that nobody really thinks there should be an absolute right to free speech in a classroom. It would be utter chaos.

We think there should be order, with a reasonable opportunity for controversy and dispute, not "free speech" for those who agree with the teacher and suspension for those who disagree.

25 posted on 07/17/2013 6:29:12 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No pun intended, no punishment ... If I offended you, you needed it.)
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To: verga

BTTT


26 posted on 07/17/2013 6:50:32 PM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: ReformationFan; All

I agree with the judge in principle. But my problem with this situation is the following. No federal laws were broken because 1A prohibits Congress from making such laws.

And I don’t know of any specific state laws that abridged the student’s constitutional rights, so Sec. 1 of 14A probably does not apply here.

The way I see it, in the absence of state laws which protect students in such situations, the judge essentially had no choice but to legislate a conservative-favoring law from the bench to protect the student. The problem is that, as a consequence of the “case closed” complacency of concerned conservative citizens and state lawmakers as a result of the judge deciding things in their favor, some pro-gay judge will eventually legislate an anti-conservative law from the bench and decide against another student in a similar situation.

In other words, as a consequence of not recognizing the difference between legislative and judicial powers, I think that conservatives are failing to recognize that this is a “loose canon” situation which needs to be resolved by either local code or state law imo. That is, unless conservatives want to continue playing “Russian roulette” with good judges versus activist judges where protecting people’s constitutional privileges or immunities are concerned.

So what am I overlooking?


27 posted on 07/17/2013 6:51:12 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: cripplecreek; Perdogg; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks ReformationFan.


28 posted on 07/17/2013 6:59:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: ReformationFan

The student is a minor.

The activist so-called teacher should be outed and scorned.


29 posted on 07/17/2013 7:03:50 PM PDT by citizen (We get the government we choose. America either voted for Obama or handed it to him by not voting.)
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To: ReformationFan

Another bite out of free speech.


30 posted on 07/17/2013 7:34:32 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: ReformationFan

A good news judge!


31 posted on 07/17/2013 7:41:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Tax-chick

In an effort to find common ground I asked a liberal High School teacher out on a date, but we never got that far.. She bragged about how often she attended the marches and protests that are popping up from time to time..

I thought it would be a show of tolerance on my part to invite her our to a wonderful dinner, but she wouldn’t agree to my request to be dipped at my veterinarian before she got into my car.. Pity, it could have been interesting... :)


32 posted on 07/17/2013 8:47:31 PM PDT by carlo3b (Speechless in Sugar Land)
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To: Tax-chick

Kudos! So rarely can one use the word ‘pedagogical’ in today’s political or social conversation. It is one of my favorite words!

It is even more rare to find anyone who understands the word...


33 posted on 07/17/2013 9:29:13 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: carlo3b

LOL!


34 posted on 07/18/2013 2:36:40 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No pun intended, no punishment ... If I offended you, you needed it.)
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To: Bshaw

Thank you! I do the “SAT Question of the Day” to keep up my word power.


35 posted on 07/18/2013 2:37:17 AM PDT by Tax-chick (No pun intended, no punishment ... If I offended you, you needed it.)
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To: Amendment10

So what am I overlooking?


You make a good point, the people of the states have let the liberal socialists decide the meaning of the first Amendment,

and they have called it Separation of Church and State.

When it is nothing less than States rights, although i like the way the Judge ruled it should have been decided by the State.

It is hard to tell how it would have turned out if it had of been left up to the State to decide, because people are not governing their States.

I guess we can be thankful for a supreme court Judge that will make the right decision on an issue that is really not his to make, but like you say, what next?


36 posted on 07/18/2013 5:03:17 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: ReformationFan

The pole smoking teacher needs to be dope slapped.
The kid’s father should see to it.


37 posted on 07/18/2013 5:15:58 AM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: wideawake

It is only good news if the teacher who is being held wholly liable, is sued to the gills.

And this young man has his college career paid by the proceeds of the lawsuit.

No lawsuit changes anything unless the left loses monies.

The left certainly doesn’t hesitate from cleaning out their targets


38 posted on 07/18/2013 5:19:22 AM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: ravenwolf

So what am I overlooking?


I don,t think you over looked anything, i agree with you.


39 posted on 07/18/2013 7:50:13 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: ReformationFan

Thank you for posting this. Christians need to take a stand in love.


40 posted on 07/18/2013 5:48:12 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: OrangeHoof

I generally try to offer a secular argument that ancient Greece was rife with pederasty, in particular, but extended to other openly homosexual trysts as well. But same-sex “marriage” was never even suggested therein in any popular sense as I strongly suspect the Greeks knew it would wreck their whole societal structure.

Then I may cite the Bible’s condemnation of the practice, thereby trying to hit the argument from both sides.


42 posted on 07/19/2013 8:01:42 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: chandlerlansing

Absolutely. These people have an agenda. Christians need to stand up to this. Sadly I think Christians view any sort of confrontation as “unloving” and “unChrist-like” - whatever that means.


44 posted on 07/19/2013 12:12:27 PM PDT by HarleyD
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