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World leaders should unite to end anti-Christian persecution, Vladimir Putin says
LifeSitewNews ^ | 8-1-13 | Hilary White

Posted on 08/01/2013 7:46:00 PM PDT by ReformationFan

Vladimir Putin has urged the world’s political leaders to stop the violent persecutions against Christians that have erupted in many Middle Eastern countries.

Speaking at a meeting with Orthodox Christian leaders in Moscow last week, the Russian President said he noted “with alarm” that “in many of the world’s regions, especially in the Middle East and in North Africa inter-confessional tensions are mounting, and the rights of religious minorities are infringed, including Christians and Orthodox Christians.”

“This pressing problem should be a subject of close attention for the entire international community,” Putin said. “It is especially important today to make efforts to prevent intercultural and interreligious conflicts, which are fraught with the most serious upheavals.”

Putin praised the growth of cooperation between the Orthodox Churches and the Russian state, saying, “We act as genuine partners and colleagues to solve the most pressing domestic and international tasks, to implement joint initiatives for the benefit of our country and people.”

The Russian Federation recently passed legislation making it illegal to promote homosexuality as normal, a move that, while condemned by many European leaders, was strongly supported by the Orthodox Church.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Orthodox Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: putin; religiousfreedom; religiousliberty; religiouspersecution; russia; vladimirputin
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Hard to believe the day would ever come when the leader of Russia cares more about Christians' freedom than the President of the United States does.
1 posted on 08/01/2013 7:46:00 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Any chance Putin can enlist Bareback in this crusade?


2 posted on 08/01/2013 7:48:34 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: ReformationFan

We have got to be in the evil parallel universe.
Not only does Putin care more about Christians than the U.S. President, but the U.S. President is preoccupied with spreading homosexuality across the world.

But I’m liking Putin more and more. Maybe he can claim to have been born in Hawaii. It’s not like he’d ever have to prove it.


3 posted on 08/01/2013 7:51:19 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: ReformationFan

We have got to be in the evil parallel universe.
Not only does Putin care more about Christians than the U.S. President, but the U.S. President is preoccupied with spreading homosexuality across the world.

But I’m liking Putin more and more. Maybe he can claim to have been born in Hawaii. It’s not like he’d ever have to prove it.


4 posted on 08/01/2013 7:51:19 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Hopefully he has had a true conversion to Christianity. Even the hardest of hearts can be touched.


5 posted on 08/01/2013 7:53:38 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: ReformationFan
Putin praises Russia's Muslims - July 10, 2013 - President Vladimir Putin has sent a message of greetings to Russia's Muslim community in connection with the start of Ramadan.

"This period of fasting, which is sacred for the entire Umma, is a tradition that has its roots in the distant past and is a reminder of the need to be merciful and tolerant, to do more good works, and to care for people," Putin said in his message, the text of which is posted on the website of his office.

"We are justifiably proud of the outstanding Muslims who have made an invaluable contribution to the strengthening of Russia and to the defense of its independence and sovereignty, and have done a great deal for peace and harmony in our multiethnic society."

"I am sure that Russian Muslims will continue to take part in the development of our common native country and help build a powerful, prosperous and modern nation," the president said.


6 posted on 08/01/2013 7:54:11 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: ReformationFan

I’m dumbfounded.


7 posted on 08/01/2013 7:55:40 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: ReformationFan

Amen.


8 posted on 08/01/2013 7:57:37 PM PDT by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: ReformationFan

Meanwhile he hasn’t stopped helping Iran, the biggest state sponsor of Islamic terrorism and one of the greatest sources of Christian persecution, build their nukes. More than just disingenuous when he talks out of both sides of his mouth.


9 posted on 08/01/2013 7:58:15 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: DannyTN

You would NEVER have heard a Russian / Communist say this EVER in the past. He’s sounding a lot more conservative and patriotic than our own president. And you wonder why Russia’s is once again ascending as one of the top world leaders.


10 posted on 08/01/2013 7:59:47 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: ReformationFan

It’s easier to understand why Snowden asked for Russian asylum.


11 posted on 08/01/2013 8:03:25 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: ReformationFan

Hey, how about the Christians being persecuted right here in the Islamocommunist banana republic of America?


12 posted on 08/01/2013 8:03:25 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Pearls Before Swine

In that Barry is arming the people who killed Russian school kids at Beslan, I would say ‘slim to none’.
Ever wonder why the Russians wouldn’t shake his hand in that youtube? That was it. It would be like Zero arming al Qaeda after September 11, 2001. Oh yeah, he’s done that too as well as recently sending 500 million tax dollars to the Palestinians who cheered that day.
Raising the question, who does Putin have more contempt for: our Muslim pResident. Or us.


13 posted on 08/01/2013 8:04:19 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: jsanders2001

“You would NEVER have heard a Russian / Communist say this EVER in the past. He’s sounding a lot more conservative and patriotic than our own president. And you wonder why Russia’s is once again ascending as one of the top world leaders.”

Even weirder, there actually IS a lot of truth in Pravda. I do believe that I may have slipped a cranch factor and am now living in a universe that is parallel to the one that I did previously (or was that my imagination?).

Maybe that super collider at CERN really DID do something weird when they fired it up...! But how can we tell?


14 posted on 08/01/2013 8:11:54 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: ReformationFan
Hard to believe the day would ever come when the leader of Russia cares more about Christians' freedom than the President of the United States does.

Amazing isn't it? I never thought I would ever live to see the day.

15 posted on 08/01/2013 8:18:07 PM PDT by Mark17 (Yesterday I couldn't spell it. Today I are one, a creepy a$$ cracker)
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To: ReformationFan

Wow I better get my eyes exam because now I’m beginning to read some weird stuff on FR.


16 posted on 08/01/2013 8:19:55 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: ReformationFan

This is such an incredible about-face that we have been witnessing recently that I can hardly help wondering how it fits into the progressive’s plans. My amazement began a year ago with Russia Today broadcasting daily hard-hitting Austrian economic analysis (since discontinued - check YouTube for Capital Account videos), and now Putin is trying to reclaim Russia’s historic self-assigned role as protectors of Christianity, with a side order of defending our Fourth Amendment whistleblower. Perhaps hoping that conservatives will eventually accept Russian troops here, which would be impossible now? After the amazing and so far unsuccessful attempts to disarm America and prepare a local SS, perhaps they simply now see that they will need to import them?

“OK, Barack, you’ve screwed up Good Cop completely. You are now Bad Cop; I’ll be Good Cop.”


17 posted on 08/01/2013 8:28:21 PM PDT by InMemoriam (Have a seat over there, Mr. Mohammed. Aisha, go play on your swingset, honey.)
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To: ReformationFan

Putin is certainly referring to the anti-Christian persecution in Ubama’s US military.


18 posted on 08/01/2013 8:31:55 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ReformationFan

Boy I’ll say! People can change, seriously. For a guy who was trained to be a soul-less killer for the KGB this would be a big step. Still, I’m wary of Old Vlad.


19 posted on 08/01/2013 8:36:01 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: ReformationFan; Chode

Putin must really want to put Obozo to shame for some strange reason because he is doing a good job of it.


20 posted on 08/01/2013 8:36:37 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: ReformationFan

The spread of the Faith amongst the world sparked the charge that they were turning the world upside down (acts 17:6).

Looks like Christ can still upturn the spirit of this world upside, for the good.


21 posted on 08/01/2013 8:47:29 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Olog-hai

Agreed.
Beware. Be ye not deceived.


22 posted on 08/01/2013 8:52:36 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Mark17

You haven’t seen that day.


23 posted on 08/01/2013 8:59:13 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: ReformationFan
Sometimes it is safer to recognize you cannot be friends with someone, you simply just get along with them. Putin is just rubbing obama's (and by extension the Dem ilk) face into the mud. Putin is no friend of anyone following Christianity, he's just found another good chain to yank with obama the muslim.

I do however hope Pooty-poot corners zero and outs him for the muzzie that he is...That would be fantastic and I *might* consider thanking him for it.

24 posted on 08/01/2013 9:09:52 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: ReformationFan

Never thought the President of Russia would look better than ours. Even the two Bushes, in addition to the clown in the Oval Office totally ignored this.

The more I hear about Putin, the better he sounds.


25 posted on 08/01/2013 9:24:01 PM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: ReformationFan
I grew up thinking that America would always be on the right side of history. I grew up in the Marine Corps believing the Russian Soviets were the "Evil Empire" and we were the good guys. That was then, this is now.

Sadly I recognize that this once great country is being led down the dark path by traitors in high places. We are now on the wrong side of history, and it appears that the Russians will play a pivotal role in rolling back the rising abomination that is islam.

26 posted on 08/01/2013 9:41:35 PM PDT by semaj
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To: Olog-hai

>>>>Meanwhile he hasn’t stopped helping Iran, the biggest state sponsor of Islamic terrorism and one of the greatest sources of Christian persecution, build their nukes. More than just disingenuous when he talks out of both sides of his mouth.<<<<<

Iran is the least militant and expansionist of most of the present islamist regimes.

They are Sunni ‘friends’ backed by Saudi Arabians who are killing Christians en-masse and establishing no-go zones in Western cities.

Not to mention Iran is some king of a republic, they have a Western style political system, elections, there are millions of educated people etc. People might be prosecuted for adultery but at least women aren’t stoned by the crowd, they are electing and being elected to offices.
Iran has a chance to be converted back to a good ways unlike any of ‘good’ muslims on the loose elsewhere.


27 posted on 08/01/2013 9:44:22 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

Wow, that’s a pack of lies. Iran’s all over Iraq, and was making inroads into Egypt (put on pause while they see who wins over there; the “winners” are themselves Islamist of course); they fund Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah, and even al-Qaeda; and if Iran gets nukes, they will use them to start WWIII in earnest.

The Caliphate thanks you for your support, with an “Inshallah” on top. (LOL at “western-style political system”, with the candidates picked by the Guardian Council.)


28 posted on 08/01/2013 9:47:25 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

>>>Wow, that’s a pack of lies. Iran’s all over Iraq, and was making inroads into Egypt (put on pause while they see who wins over there; the “winners” are themselves Islamist of course); they fund Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah, and even al-Qaeda; and if Iran gets nukes, they will use them to start WWIII in earnest.<<<

I haven’t told Iran is innocent, but I don’t think they are the biggest threat in a long run.

>>>The Caliphate thanks you for your support, with an “Inshallah” on top.<<<

Caliphate is a Sunni thing. Al-Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood etc. Iran is a protagonist of an idea if you are to learn this situation carefully.

>>>(LOL at “western-style political system”, with the candidates picked by the Guardian Council.)<<<

Czech Republic or Poland had the same system just a few decades ago.
It proved to have a room for conversion, unlike most of the ‘friendly’ regimes.

I admire your lean towards universal understanding of good and evil but unfortunately it is not working in our imperfect world.


29 posted on 08/01/2013 10:19:36 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

What trashy nonsense. Get back to me when Iran stops building road side bombs that kill our troops.


30 posted on 08/01/2013 10:54:16 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: cunning_fish

Iran is the biggest threat, and Putin is helping them directly; he is not hiding that fact. (Obama is also helping them indirectly.) As much trouble as Saudi Arabia is and has been, they don’t have the fanaticism of Iran’s Twelvers, who actually believe they need to start World War III to induce their Mahdi to return.

Helping Islamists in any way no matter where they come from is detrimental to Christians besides.

And Caliphate is a Muslim thing. The Sunnis and Shi’ites differ on who has the right to be the caliph, though.

As for good and evil, their definitions do not change no matter how imperfect the world goes.


31 posted on 08/01/2013 10:56:10 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: ReformationFan

Putin cares about western civilization

Man the contradiction


32 posted on 08/01/2013 10:58:21 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; Olog-hai

>>>What trashy nonsense. Get back to me when Iran stops building road side bombs that kill our troops.<<<

I’m not going to justify it but at the same time they are fighting against people who organized 9/11 and preaching hate in mosques in American cities recruiting idiots into more terrorism against civilians.

>>>Iran is the biggest threat, and Putin is helping them directly; he is not hiding that fact. (Obama is also helping them indirectly.) As much trouble as Saudi Arabia is and has been, they don’t have the fanaticism of Iran’s Twelvers, who actually believe they need to start World War III to induce their Mahdi to return.

Helping Islamists in any way no matter where they come from is detrimental to Christians besides.

And Caliphate is a Muslim thing. The Sunnis and Shi’ites differ on who has the right to be the caliph, though.

As for good and evil, their definitions do not change no matter how imperfect the world goes.<<<

Iran is backing Assad regime in Syria, they are countering Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Qaeda in Egypt.

Both Egyptian junta and Assad’s regime are obstacles to a Caliphate, not a competitors for a role of Caliph.

All of the above are awful people but some of them are a kind of allies against ultimate radical islam.


33 posted on 08/01/2013 11:14:56 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: The Antiyuppie

Putin probably has more fans in the U.S. than he does in Russia now. These must be end times...


34 posted on 08/01/2013 11:27:40 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: cunning_fish

Let me put this in a way you may understand:

Once Iran gets its nukes, they will target Russia among their other stated targets. They won’t spare anyone. Therefore, why help them go nuclear?


35 posted on 08/01/2013 11:39:47 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

>>>Let me put this in a way you may understand:

Once Iran gets its nukes, they will target Russia among their other stated targets. They won’t spare anyone. Therefore, why help them go nuclear?<<<

I think for one reason or another they won’t get any functional nukes. I’m convinced that if not for a Russian “help” Iran could have a bomb already. I think there are some kind of covert work about it between Russian and Israel’s intelligence.


36 posted on 08/01/2013 11:45:29 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

Well, it is true that Russia is not Iran’s sole source of nuke help; North Korea is a big collaborator. But Russia should be hindering instead.


37 posted on 08/01/2013 11:46:50 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai; cunning_fish

I don’t know if Iran will target Russia actually, considering the first thing their last “president” did was meet with Putin after his election. There’s actually lots of evidence that the Russians supported the overthrow of the Shah and the current government in Iran.

As for Cunning_fish, it’s ridiculous to be concerned over which kind of Islam reigns supreme. When it comes down to it, the Russians have supported both kinds throughout the world. Alexandr Litvenenko, the fellow who was poisoned with Polonium 210, whose suspected killer fled to Russia and whom they refused to extradite, claimed that Al-Qaeda’s number two man (now number one) was trained by the FSB.

If Putin is so Christian, he needs to come clean about all the people beaten and murdered under his regime, as well as his reasons for supporting Islamic terrorism, as well as using his agents in the U.S. to spread communist propaganda in support of the far-left in south America. I’m thinking of that Spanish woman who was deported awhile back, along with the slut red head, for their operations in the U.S. She’s working now for the Moscow Times providing talking points for Alex Jones.


38 posted on 08/01/2013 11:49:25 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

>>>claimed that Al-Qaeda’s number two man (now number one) was trained by the FSB.<<<

LOL. Al-Qaeda # 1 man was trained by CIA. What is the point?


39 posted on 08/01/2013 11:53:41 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

“LOL. Al-Qaeda # 1 man was trained by CIA. What is the point?”


Are you claiming that Osama Bin Laden is an American agent? What evidence do you have that Osama was specifically trained by the CIA or in any way affiliated with the CIA or any government agency?


40 posted on 08/01/2013 11:55:46 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
There was some worry that Iran would indeed target Russia out of Russia itself, when Iran tested long-range missiles back in 2009. It was out of Sergei Lavrov, who is still Minister of Foreign Affairs.

On top of that, given the more recent problems that Russia has had with Dagestani and Chechnyan Islamists, their helping Iran in any way contributes to many other continued dangers to Russia.

I agree fully with your latter two paragraphs.
41 posted on 08/01/2013 11:57:20 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

>>>Are you claiming that Osama Bin Laden is an American agent? What evidence do you have that Osama was specifically trained by the CIA or in any way affiliated with the CIA or any government agency?<<<

Well, at least he was supplied by CIA. As for being an agent or not I have no evidence. To be fair, I haven’t seen a KGB member card of #2 as well.


42 posted on 08/01/2013 11:59:33 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

“Well, at least he was supplied by CIA.”


“The story about bin Laden and the CIA — that the CIA funded bin Laden or trained bin Laden — is simply a folk myth. There’s no evidence of this. In fact, there are very few things that bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri and the U.S. government agree on. They all agree that they didn’t have a relationship in the 1980s. And they wouldn’t have needed to. Bin Laden had his own money, he was anti-American and he was operating secretly and independently. The real story here is the CIA did not understand who Osama was until 1996, when they set up a unit to really start tracking him.”

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/08/15/bergen.answers/index.html

That’s generally where I classify Iran/Russian apologetics. Folk myth.

As for no KGB ID Card, we certainly don’t need ID cards for Hizbollah aided and abetted by Iran, who in turn are supported by the Russians. Are you pro-Hizbollah? What about Hamas?


43 posted on 08/02/2013 12:07:14 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

>>>Are you pro-Hizbollah? What about Hamas?<<<

I’m certainly not a Hizbollah supporter but I like to see them being a pain for Al-Qaeda. A job present US administration won’t do.


44 posted on 08/02/2013 12:14:32 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

... You’re seriously arguing for Hizbollah, the same guys who like to kill Jewish children and hate the United States, to be seen as a potential ally against... Al-Qaeda?

So where in Moscow do you live and how much does comrade Putin pay you for these silly posts?


45 posted on 08/02/2013 12:21:20 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: ReformationFan

I agree. I did a quick search Obama criticizes Christian persecution. NOTHING.

I think we should hang our heads in shame.


46 posted on 08/02/2013 12:24:09 AM PDT by johnnygeneric
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To: johnnygeneric

I think someone else’s head should be in the same sentence as “hanging”...


47 posted on 08/02/2013 12:25:54 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

>>>... You’re seriously arguing for Hizbollah, the same guys who like to kill Jewish children and hate the United States, to be seen as a potential ally against... Al-Qaeda?

So where in Moscow do you live and how much does comrade Putin pay you for these silly posts?<<<

I live nowhere near Moscow and aren’t paid for any posts.

I’m not advocating Hizbollah as well, being fully aware of all kinds of their activity.

I just hate to see everyone being nuts about Hizbollah which is pretty much contained by Israel’s forces in it’s negative activity but at the same time praising or ignoring Al-Qaeda’s “Arab Spring” which is a thing of absolute different magnitude.

Mind my words in a few years. Just let a Syrian, Egyptian regime fall, wait for Jordan, destroy Iran and you’ll see that.
There will be a Sunni Caliphate of Middle East and North Africa. It will have an economic power of UK, enough expertise to build a sufficient number of nukes and delivery systems to effectively target United States and Europe. And it will be run by OBL types who actually can do it, not just menacing like Iran’s mullahs does.


48 posted on 08/02/2013 12:34:34 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Morgana
works for me...
49 posted on 08/02/2013 4:48:16 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: ReformationFan

50 posted on 08/02/2013 5:11:46 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (“The only thing worse than a knee-jerk liberal is a knee-pad conservative.” ~ Edward Abbey)
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