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Churches Prepare for Same-Sex Weddings [Minnesota]
The Lansing State Journal | 8/2/13 | Rose French

Posted on 08/04/2013 4:24:30 PM PDT by marshmallow

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TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Theology
KEYWORDS: fdrq; homosexualagenda; minnesota; ssm

1 posted on 08/04/2013 4:24:30 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Whatever it may be, This is not a Christian church.


2 posted on 08/04/2013 4:27:09 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: marshmallow

“Friend of the groom or friend of the groom?”

Instead of throwing rice at the happy couple, throw condoms.


3 posted on 08/04/2013 4:29:37 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: marshmallow

These apostate “churches” may call this “marriage,” but God will have none of this blasphemous behavior.


4 posted on 08/04/2013 4:34:40 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: OrangeHoof

Throw them tubes of Preparation H.


5 posted on 08/04/2013 4:35:30 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: marshmallow

My guess - dying churches looking to make a “splash” or “change things up” will be losing their congregation at an even faster rate.

Soon to followed by articles on how these “churches” can not afford to even maintain their building anymore.

And their new LGBT members?

Not much support to rebuild from there.


6 posted on 08/04/2013 4:37:54 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: marshmallow

The road to hell goes right through this farce...


7 posted on 08/04/2013 4:39:11 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: marshmallow

The twist that will come out of all of this is that churches ultimately won’t have a choice in the matter, they either perform gay marriages or they do no marriages at all. If they discriminate they will be shut down. If they do no marriages then no one gets married within their faith.


8 posted on 08/04/2013 4:43:37 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: marshmallow

No real Christian would be a part of any such “church”


9 posted on 08/04/2013 4:49:34 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Free Vulcan

They could do members only


10 posted on 08/04/2013 4:50:24 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2banana
One church I'm familiar with, has gained 1,400 new members in the last few months, half of whom are from the homosexual community. They have also lost one-half of their existing membership.

As to donations, the churches with large homosexual members will probably get quite a bit of donations as homosexuals haven't been lacking in money in the past, not having to pay for babies, schools, sports, orthodontists, and college educations.

Not so today, rotten departments of "child welfare" are giving these children to gay couples so they can be families too!

11 posted on 08/04/2013 4:52:19 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: marshmallow

Have the Lutherans consulted God on this ‘redefinition of marriage’, I wonder?

As I recall, His Word has some things to say on the subject.


12 posted on 08/04/2013 4:53:43 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: marshmallow

And the divorce lawyers are out shopping for new boats, jet skis and other toys they will soon be able to afford.


13 posted on 08/04/2013 4:57:30 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (What difference does it make?)
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To: Free Vulcan

Sacrament! In the Catholic church marriage is a sacrament. I don’t think the Obama/Clinton/Media Alinskyites can touch that one!


14 posted on 08/04/2013 4:59:19 PM PDT by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: Free Vulcan

I think we would see people married under God without a state marriage certificate


15 posted on 08/04/2013 5:01:51 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: marshmallow

What’s the difference between a ‘blessing ceremony’ and a ‘gay marriage’? Why wouldn’t they just have a marriage ceremony?

Freegards


16 posted on 08/04/2013 5:04:30 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: marshmallow

The define “church” very loosely.


17 posted on 08/04/2013 5:12:21 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: zerosix

The ones I have seen gone “progressive” - gay, gun control, big government, etc.

They gain a few far left parishioners. And some “good” press.

They lose at least half of their core members.

The funny thing - the core members were the ones who would really sacrifice, give up their time, care for the church, put money in the plate while going without.

The new far left members - let’s just say if there is a choice between a sale at their favorite clothing store/new menu at the local left wing restaurant or giving to the church - the church is not getting much (time or treasure).

People know what is the work go God. The Bible in written in plain language. Those bedrock people are the ones who make a church and keep it going.


18 posted on 08/04/2013 5:39:55 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: marshmallow
feh... delenda est
19 posted on 08/04/2013 5:41:57 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Free Vulcan
churches ultimately won’t have a choice in the matter, they either perform gay marriages or they do no marriages at all. If they discriminate they will be shut down.

Not so. I am a pastor of a church, and I don't do all weddings that people ask for, even for heterosexuals. I only do weddings if at least one of the couple is a member in good standing of my congregation, i.e., under my pastoral care. And since homosexuality is a sin, therefore an impenitent homosexual would not be a member in good standing of my congregation.

20 posted on 08/04/2013 7:07:22 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor, LCMS)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Have the Lutherans consulted God on this ‘redefinition of marriage’, I wonder?

Are you talking about Lutherans, or the ELCA? There's a big difference.

21 posted on 08/04/2013 7:08:42 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor, LCMS)
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To: GeronL

your right on that!!

Along this line....a wee bit of humor!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY9l_a43YLM


22 posted on 08/04/2013 7:11:48 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: Charles Henrickson

One the second page of the article it says ELCA.


23 posted on 08/04/2013 7:12:33 PM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: Charles Henrickson
Charles, the law in Minnesota allows for conscience objections on the part of clergy only. So, vendors of flowers, catering, etc. have no choice.

However, the conscience objection only lasts until a rogue judge finds it violates equal protection. And these people know the rogue judges.

The agenda here is clearly not one of "live and let live".

24 posted on 08/04/2013 7:20:47 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Charles Henrickson

The courts unfortunately may make that decision for all of us.


25 posted on 08/04/2013 7:26:56 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: pollywog

lol


26 posted on 08/04/2013 7:29:06 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

lot of truth from our barnyard friends eh!! LOL


27 posted on 08/04/2013 7:59:52 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: faithhopecharity

Neither is it a marriage, no matter what it is called.


28 posted on 08/04/2013 8:04:51 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Right. Thanks.


29 posted on 08/04/2013 8:16:20 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: 2banana
Of course, churches with large, progressive members, will lose out on stewardship of people who are tireless givers of their time.

As I have witnessed in a few progressive congregations, they must rely on paid staff, staff while no doubt good, decent and loyal, will never be able to accomplish what a group of devoted believers would.

30 posted on 08/04/2013 8:34:20 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: zerosix
Questions:

1. They got 1400 new members, but how many old ones did they lose?

2. More a long term question, but it would be interesting to see how long they KEEP the new members while old ones hemorrhage.

31 posted on 08/04/2013 11:24:27 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: LucianOfSamasota; redgolum; lightman
In fairness, this is not all "lutherans", but the ELCA. There are still truly Christian Lutherans like the WELS, LCMC groups etc.

We all ought to sue the ELCA and ECUSA for using the terms Church and Christian etc.

32 posted on 08/04/2013 11:26:12 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: marshmallow
Religious ceremonies are typically not governed by state law, so Catholics and other churches that don’t recognize same-sex marriage are not required to marry gay couples — or any couples, for that matter.

TYPICALLY not governed?!!!! Anyone else not see this as a blatant shot across the bow?

33 posted on 08/05/2013 4:40:30 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: aberaussie; Aeronaut; aliquando; AlternateViewpoint; AnalogReigns; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...


Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!

* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.

Be rooted in Christ!

34 posted on 08/05/2013 6:47:15 AM PDT by lightman (Prosecute the heresies; pity the heretics.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

These are “Lutherans” in name only. The ELCA ceased being a “Christian Church”. It is now a liberal cult.


35 posted on 08/05/2013 6:59:57 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

***Have the Lutherans consulted God on this ‘redefinition of marriage’, I wonder?***


I posted this thread back in May.

Marriage and the Church
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3018022/posts


36 posted on 08/05/2013 7:14:17 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Cronos
The church lost at least one-half of their "old" or existing members!

One important thing to remember here is that the "very popular pastor" has pushed the gay agenda in this church, so I'm not certain just how much he'll "miss" his "old members" who are fleeing out the doors, in favor of his more modern-thinking new members.

37 posted on 08/05/2013 7:19:27 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: lightman

“For Christopherson, using the term “marriage” will be one of the biggest changes. Central Lutheran pastors have held religious “blessing” ceremonies for same-sex couples since about 2000.”

What is the difference between a ‘blessing’ ceremony and a regular marriage ceremony? Is this something these particular Lutherans do for all couples, including straight/non-legally married or what? Why didn’t they use the term ‘marriage’ before if they thought it was possible?

FReegards


38 posted on 08/05/2013 7:28:00 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Real Lutherans have. E*CA? Not so much...


39 posted on 08/05/2013 10:10:01 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper
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To: lightman

Meanwhile.......

http://www.lutherancss.org/


40 posted on 08/05/2013 11:13:47 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Ransomed

I have no clue...they are of a different jurisdiction and they are clearly proclaiming a different Gospel.


41 posted on 08/05/2013 11:13:59 AM PDT by lightman (Prosecute the heresies; pity the heretics.)
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