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10 Quotes That Prove The Pope Is A Liberal
National Catholic Register ^ | August 05, 2013 | Pat Archbold

Posted on 08/05/2013 7:23:37 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

The Pope is soft on Islam.

"It is true that the Muslim world is not totally mistaken when it reproaches the West of Christian tradition of moral decadence and the manipulation of human life."

Encourages Homosexuality.

"It is deplorable that homosexual persons have been and are the object of violent malice in speech or in action. Such treatment deserves condemnation from the church's pastors wherever it occurs."

[SNIP]

He is overtly humble and does not embrace his office:

"The authority of the pope is not unlimited;"

"The cardinals have elected me, a simple and humble worker in the Lord's vineyard. The fact that the Lord can work and act even with insufficient means consoles me, and above all I entrust myself to your prayers."

He makes a point of extolling women and the Church.

“It is theologically and anthropologically important for woman to be at the center of Christianity. Through Mary, and the other holy women, the feminine element stands at the heart of the Christian religion.”

On those neo-pelagians that think they can earn their way to heaven through piety instead of charity:

“If in my life I fail completely to heed others, solely out of a desire to be 'devout' and to perform my 'religious duties', then my relationship with God will also grow arid. It becomes merely 'proper', but loveless.”

He cares about the environment:

“Listen to the voice of the earth...”

He even hates Capitalism:

"the prevalence of a selfish and individualistic mindset which also finds expression in an unregulated capitalism"

(Excerpt) Read more at ncregister.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholic; liberal; pope; popebenedict; popefrancis; vatican
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To: Alex Murphy
Is Francis the last Pope: Peter the Roman ?
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

21 posted on 08/05/2013 8:28:42 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Salvation; markomalley
The Pope directly succeeds Jesus Christ as the leader of the Church. Are you saying that Jesus Christ had no authority?

Are you saying that Jesus Christ stopped leading the Christian Church?

22 posted on 08/05/2013 8:29:30 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Thus, my opponent's argument falls.")
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To: Alex Murphy

Thanks, Alex! Wonderful article, right down to the last line: kicky!


23 posted on 08/05/2013 8:32:02 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification, I hope.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

This post meant to cause trouble.

The last sentence of the article could have and should have been included in the first response, but it was not.

The article was written about Pope Benedict and its audience is NCRegister readers who would and can always trust that their newspaper would never disparage the Pope

The poster says read the article knowing many will not, as evidenced by the many discouraged posters

The last sentence, this is about Pope Benedict, was not in there


24 posted on 08/05/2013 8:42:00 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Alex Murphy
"It is deplorable that homosexual persons have been and are the object of violent malice in speech or in action."

It is "encouraging homosexuality" to refrain from beating up homosexuals or saying that they should be beaten up? I don't think so. Or are we to imagine Jesus engaging in violent attacks on homosexuals?
25 posted on 08/05/2013 8:43:43 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Alex Murphy

Francis may be worse than all those who followed Pius XII and Vatican II. And that’s quite a stretch.


26 posted on 08/05/2013 8:44:11 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: All

There is a lot of projection going on concerning Pope Francis. That’s what makes this article with its surprise ending possible.


27 posted on 08/05/2013 8:46:41 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
There is a lot of projection going on concerning Pope Francis. That’s what makes this article with its surprise ending possible.

Funny how no one's taken issue with the author's bait-and-switch assertion that BXVI was a liberal :)

28 posted on 08/05/2013 8:51:58 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Thus, my opponent's argument falls.")
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To: Salvation

” On the other hand would you say that Peter directly succeded Jesus Christ as the leader of the Church.”

No.

I would say that Jesus appointed him “prime minister” (if I needed to use another word than “vicar”)

See Matthew 16:19 where Jesus gave to him the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven. To understand that more fully, you should look at Isaiah 22:21-22 and see the appointment given to Eliakim. Peter’s successors then retained those keys, but Jesus clearly remains the King of Kings.


29 posted on 08/05/2013 8:53:41 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: stanne
This post meant to cause trouble. The last sentence of the article could have and should have been included in the first response, but it was not....The poster says read the article knowing many will not, as evidenced by the many discouraged posters

I thought mindreading and thought control were outside of the purview of Catholicism?

30 posted on 08/05/2013 8:54:33 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Thus, my opponent's argument falls.")
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To: Alex Murphy
What's to take issue with. In many areas BXVI WAS a liberal. I think the point of this article is three-fold:
  1. People have their minds made up about Francis and are projecting their hopes or fears.
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  2. It's easy to take a line or two and twist it to mean what you want it to mean.
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  3. People are idiots.

31 posted on 08/05/2013 8:58:55 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Blecch!

Mind reading, right.

We’ve been down this anti pope road before

You and I, Mr. Murphy

That and a cursory glance at the effect of and the fruits of your post show clearly an intent without mind reading

A more effective route for your anti catholic sentiments might include going directly to an experienced or especially holy priest

But to use this forum for it seems very inappropriate to me and chicken


32 posted on 08/05/2013 9:04:40 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Alex Murphy

Why are you encouraging people to sin, Alex?


33 posted on 08/05/2013 9:05:53 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: stanne

Murphy believes that the Pope serves Satan and not God.


34 posted on 08/05/2013 9:06:32 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: Alex Murphy

This article is about Pope Benedict.

It is tongue in cheek

It is from an authentically Catholic Paper


35 posted on 08/05/2013 9:06:55 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne
a cursory glance at the effect of and the fruits of your post show clearly an intent without mind reading

Would that be these fruits and effects, stanne?

Post # 4: "Good article. LOL"
Post #17: "Lol! Great post, Alex. And good catch, Servant."
Post #19: "Am I the only one here that thinks maybe the Pope should be liberal?"
Post #23: "Thanks, Alex! Wonderful article, right down to the last line: kicky!"

36 posted on 08/05/2013 9:12:49 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Thus, my opponent's argument falls.")
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To: Alex Murphy

“The authority of the pope is not unlimited;”


I would say that is a true statement.

Every thing else if an actual statement of his, i agree, i would consider him a liberal and a new world enthusiast.

People who have never had to get out and pick s..t with the chickens do not understand that Capitalism is what feeds the hungry people all over the world.

When Jesus was talking about giving drink or food to people he was talking about giving of ones self, personally, do unto others as you would have them do unto you,
but
Matt 20 shows very plainly that Jesus was not against Capitalism.


15
Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?

If the owner of the vine yard had of paid the late comers what they were worth they would have been angry, but since out of the kindness of his heart he paid them more than what they earned the others were angry.

It is nothing but envy of what some one else has, regardless of how hard they worked or did not work to get it.

Who will help me gather in the crop? not i said them all.
Who will help me eat it? i will said them all.


37 posted on 08/05/2013 9:14:16 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: JCBreckenridge; stanne
Why are you encouraging people to sin, Alex?

Murphy believes that the Pope serves Satan and not God.

Murphy believes you should have pinged me to your post to stanne

38 posted on 08/05/2013 9:14:28 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Thus, my opponent's argument falls.")
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To: Salvation

Sorry, haven’t found that comment anywhere in the scriptures that I have read and since I have read the entire Bible at this point, I would like your scriptural reference from the LORD that gave this authority to the pope. My Bible says that ONLY through Jesus will anyone see the Father. Doesn’t mention the pope in that reference.


39 posted on 08/05/2013 9:22:30 AM PDT by RetiredArmy ("As in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of Man." The LORD said it would be like this.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Am I inaccurate?


40 posted on 08/05/2013 9:23:53 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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